Sep 05 2007
Super Shaq and Shaunie

Shaquille O’Neal Breaking Up His Super Marriage: It’s “Irretrievably Broken”

Rumors of Kobe Bryant splitting from his wife have proven false thus far, but it looks as though his buddy Shaquille O’Neal is ready to split from Shaunie, his wife of five years. Rumors are she was doing some dig-dug antics with the money (piling secret stashes) - some say stealing - but is it called stealing when you’re married?

Shaq’s attorney filed a divorce petition in a Miami court on Tuesday.

In the petition he claims.. Shaunie has been “secretive about her assets . . . particularly with respect to certain properties owned or titled in either [her] name alone or in other entities.’’ He wants the court to order Shaunie to give a ‘‘correct accounting of all money, funds, stocks, bonds, and other securities (including bearer securities)’’ that she came into during the marriage.”

Further along is the nail in the coffin “The marriage between the parties is irretrievably broken.”

Shaq had four kids with Shaunie - Shareef, 7, Amirah, 5, Shaqir, 4, and Me’Arah, 1.

Shaq is a big kid himself. In fact he loves the kids - even the fat ones (haha).

Couldn’t see him wanting to break up his kid’s ‘happy’ home life over something he didn’t think was that serious. Shaq did suggest that Shaunie get custody of the kids, with him receiving “liberal rights of visitation.” Which would seemingly give him the freedom to live the bachelor life free and clean, but he couldn’t possibly manage a house of kids with three years left on an NBA contract.

A contract that pays him $20 million a year.

There is a prenup in place, which will secure some of that $100 million deal he signed with the Miami Heat.

Who gets their Star Island home won’t be a question, it’s up for sale.

Shaq's Star Island Estate - Up For Sale

Got $32 million?


☼ What's Your Opinion? ☼

1 Me Wed, Sep 05, 2007 - 12:23 pm

She’s been setting herself up for when she leaves him. That Superhead book was it! I know Shaunie is not stupid. That’s right gurl! Forget the prenup, make your own cash and leave his ass!

2 what Wed, Sep 05, 2007 - 1:19 pm

last time i checked has she ever worked and what entitled her to steal money, and place in other corporations or trusts…. no wonder.. leave her dumb ass

3 jimmy Wed, Sep 05, 2007 - 1:21 pm

make what cash it was his money, another example dont marry beneath yourself this is what happens
your money is her money, what about superhead so what…., what about her and her spanish trainer
everyday, read the court documents

4 WhatchaThink Wed, Sep 05, 2007 - 2:13 pm

Poor, poor chidren. This could get ugly. I’ll bet that Shaunie wanted to be financially secure and that is why she was stashing money and properties away. Her plan was to leave him him once she had her money right. She may have slept with the trainer because her husband was out “hoing” around. Two wrongs don’t make a right. She should have hired a PI to produce pics of his cheating and then divorce the big ogre. Her dignity and her children’s dignity would have been kept in place. She seems to be the type that always has a plan, even when she was creeping with Shaq while engaged to someone else. This time her scheme has back-fired leaving her children in the bad mix. As a mother of two, I believe in being a role model for my children especially my daughter.

5 ALL SAID AND DONE Wed, Sep 05, 2007 - 2:58 pm

Shaunie actually does work. she is a news reporter in Miami. and she is very educated she went to school and graduated with a degree in broadcasting and journalism. so she is smart I do agree that she just wanted to make sure that if he was to leave she would be finacially set. there is no such thing as stealing when you are married. but with four children she don’t have to worry about her finances at all.

6 say it aint so Wed, Sep 05, 2007 - 3:40 pm

I hate to see this I had so much hope for them.I dont think marrying her is beneath him because they are cut from the same cloth and lets be real men do you really know everything your wife buy or spend her money on? you may think you do but trust me her shoe closet and her mothers house just seem to be getting bigger and bigger and women do you tell your husband everything you buy? and question, how can you work with 6 children? and I dont think she is a gold digger its hard to dig for gold when you already married to it. she is doing what all the NBA & NFL wifes are doing she married to a baller.

7 dmac Wed, Sep 05, 2007 - 3:56 pm

man kill yo self and that bitch, if she ain’t a gold gigger then why is she hiding money, and everybody’s husband ain’t shaq. good job with the prenup, she will get child support, but thats it, so she not that smart, besides she wasn’t shit b4 him and that job in miami, believe me, that was his doing, so he had to be watching his money more than she knew. lesson learned, don’t depend on a baller because they drop ho’s everyday.

8 THE G-MAN Wed, Sep 05, 2007 - 6:35 pm

Does not surprise me!! They ( women) come to take your cash, or pretend that the cash is theirs. Skeezers say “Always be setting them up” , the real deal is that she was married to the guy who was shaq ‘s security detail in LA. She skeezed Oneal, and was a gold digger from the start, everybody knew it, and o’neal is no saint. They deserve it each other. The moral of the story is find someone who has their own money, or profession, and who works at it. Then hope that they will maintenance themselves. The day of the superhead is over. Oh, and always get a strong pre-nup, credit report, an affidavit attesting to the fact that they are who they say they are,  and background the whole family and friends. IF IT DOES NOT LOOK RIGHT, IT USUALLY ISN’T RIGHT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9 ATL Wed, Sep 05, 2007 - 7:00 pm

This is very interesting. I always believe that there may be a rift between the families, because it seems that Shaunie never seemed to sit with his Mom at any of the games. It would seem that the two women that love him the most would cheer him on together at his games. Secondly when you marry with this difference in lifestyles it is so much more challenging. It can work, but it takes more work, more trust, less insecurity etc. for both of there sakes I hope it stays as clean and civil as possible. Black Hollywood love seems to be in jeopardy these days

10 ladydi Wed, Sep 05, 2007 - 7:23 pm

Marrying beneath him…get real. He was damn lucky to get her! She is educated and attractive and took care of his outside children like they were her own. She lowered her standards by dealing with his big kid, super-freak, Superman loving ass. Last time I checked she graduated with a B.A. and a Masters and he left LSU in the less that a Sophomre status and bought a degree from the University of Phoenix on-line. Get real. Marrying on your level means a lot of different things, not just money. If you focus on money, the only woman some of these athletes can marry is either Oprah or Leona Hemsley. And the last time I checked, Leona’s dead so I guess that leaves them marrying a real bitch (her dog).

11 Tia Wed, Sep 05, 2007 - 10:10 pm

They say what goes around comes around….I guess Shaq got what he deserved. Never knew Shaunie had an MBA..because she doesn’t. Shaquille did leave LSU for NBA status and so would anyone else. The bottom line is she had a husband when he met her ass and got her pregnant. Which means that she’s a cheat and he was ok with that so why should she be any different now. Of course she was securing her assets she’s been securing them from the day she got pregnant with the first child and then spit one out every year after that. As far as his extra-marital affairs I’m sure if she really wanted to find out or take her head out the sand she would have found out many times over but the truth is that shit did not matter cuzz she was only ever interested in exactly what she was getting his $$$$. She’s a gold digger and a liar but he’s no better than her…the sad part is they collectively have 6 children. The good part is they have the $$$ to take care of them. I’m glad he had a pre-nup and as far as her I’m sure she (thought) she knew what she was doing. Hope she’s got some of that $$$ out the country cuzz Shaq’s ass will find out. His team will make sure of it and I don’t mean the miami heat. As far as his outside children he only had one as did she.

12 Jah Thu, Sep 06, 2007 - 1:15 am

It’s tough man.  When you mix emotions and money…it’s get uglier.  And UGLIEST when kids are involved.  How you think it’s gonna’ affect them…

13 xoxo Thu, Sep 06, 2007 - 2:45 am

you guys just pray for them both…

14 T. ALLEN Thu, Sep 06, 2007 - 3:21 am

At least he sowed his oats! Them children gone be kool! His next chic gone be smoother than that!

15 Mrs. Baller Married To Baller Brotha Thu, Sep 06, 2007 - 3:41 am

Read the court documents…

http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/0905_shaq_divorce_wm_01.pdf

I am upset because he just gave (hot with the quickness)her the kids and only wants to visit them and is making sure the lawyers get all the gifts, property, and cash she received during the marriage, even the damn jewelry, I am so mad, Shaunie why did you get caught! You are suppose to have a Mother or Sister to school you better than this!

16 duh Thu, Sep 06, 2007 - 10:28 am

so, some fathers don’t even visit the kids, besides who else gonna take care of them while he on the road, and i don’t give a damn what kind of degree u have, it won’t nearly add up 2 shaq money.

17 Scorpio32 Thu, Sep 06, 2007 - 11:02 am

I am very disturb by this. I have been following them both of the years. They were such beautiful people. I hope they both can work it out. Don’t just give up on your marriage like that. I don’t think it is that serious. My mother has four daughters and she always say that don’t let your right hand know what your left hand is doing. Meaning that you should put something up for a rainy day. U never know when you are going to need it. When you marry a man or a woman with celebrity status anything is bound to happen. You never know what they are doing when they are out on the road. It’s so many people that try to come in and break up marriages. I think she should have put up a little something because you never no when you are going to get served with divorce papers. Sometimes it just happen out the blue u know, u just get hit with it. You know my husband always say people with money just go crazy and are miserable people.He say that they need some struggles like other people that’s just working because it sometimes make your bound stronger with one another. It seems like lately that most of these millonaires are very unhappy. Don’t let the money rule you. Remember when we all die the money and all that other stuff will still be here. You cant take it with you, so just enjoy life take it easy one day at a time. Save your marriage please, you need to be in the home with those children that’s all we need is another broken black family.

18 oh well Thu, Sep 06, 2007 - 3:58 pm

f**k it thats life, everything happens for a reason. so let life be life, better to happen now then another 10 miserable years, u can’t save what don’t wanna be saved.

19 robyne and DEE Thu, Sep 06, 2007 - 8:19 pm

you go girl!!! another superhead book is on its way out anyway!!

20 newark nj Thu, Sep 06, 2007 - 9:43 pm

if she is stupid enough to go tip for tap, and get caught on top of it she has to pay the price,the one’s who will suffer is the children.
Shaq hold your head.

21 ChilliD Thu, Sep 06, 2007 - 10:55 pm

ldaydi,
See…this is what I mean…another fine example of women speak out of emotion instead of facts.  Check the facts love…She got her degree just recently and exactly what school did she get her degree?  True enough Shag left LSU early but he did go back and get his Bachelors from LSU. Yes…he got his Master’s from University of Phoenix. She got here reporting job because of Shaq’s influence not on her own merits.  The only value she has added to Shaq’s life (and it is very important) are those 4 kids.  She was engaged to another man when she started fooling around with Shaq over five years ago.  Let’s not speak out emotion ladies but fact…she was a gold digger then and as it has been so eloquently put over the years…“once a gold digger…always a gold digger”. And we as a people sit back and wonder why black athletes marry out of their race….HHHHHHMMMMMMM?

22 Big T Fri, Sep 07, 2007 - 8:53 am

How stupid is that response by Lady D. Shaq did not buy a degree from any university and if you knew anything about him you would know that in 2006 he also received his MBA. Shaq is very intelligent and is currently building the largest condo community in South Florida. I have no idea why anybody listens to “super head”. She should be doing Got Milk commercials because that fits her lifestyle. I feel bad for the kids. Shaunie and Shaq will be fine and they both can continue banging whoever they want.
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23 d Fri, Sep 07, 2007 - 9:57 am

chillid, big T u are both right, lady d is a stupid bitch.,never heard such non sense, i’m speechless, i guess she got dusted off as well.

24 S Fri, Sep 07, 2007 - 3:15 pm

SO WHAT SHAUNIE YU GO GIRL i AM VERY PROUD OF YU LETS GET TOGETHER AND EAT SHAQS MONEY BABY

25 a Fri, Sep 07, 2007 - 4:26 pm

He planned this all along, I bet he has a girlfriend on the side already, and wants to be with her. And this a easy way out.

26 TRTHRTS Fri, Sep 07, 2007 - 4:26 pm

Just to set the record straight!  Shaunie WAS NOT
ENGAGED to someone else when she met Shaq…SHE WAS ALREADY MARRIED TO the father of her first
child/son; Miles.  Now how do I know that?
Because I was at that wedding; and I know firsthand all the low down and dirty cheating things she did to her husband to be with Shaq!!

I feel sorry for that whole family, especially those kids.

Don’t you know ONCE A CHEATER….ALWAYS A CHEATER?!!!

27 SMART BLACK WOMEN Sat, Sep 08, 2007 - 1:09 am

I just want to comment on the last part that ChilliD said and you wonder why black athletes marry out of their race.  It’s not just the black women that do men wrong the other race are the first to do men wrong all they think about is money.  Shaunie should have went about it another way and I’m quite sure he was giving her money any way she should have save that because what he gives her he can’t take back regardless of the prenup she had 4 kids by Shaq so she’s going to get money.  Alot of women make the mistake of not working which is wrong just because he has money it’s not yours you still should work even if it’s part-time.  The kids will be fine.

28 Mrs. B-Rochester NY Sat, Sep 08, 2007 - 2:41 pm

When I heard that they were breaking up I was deeply sadden. I think of them like Will/ Jada, a great couple! I know that there are always ups and down in a mariage and I’m praying for them as well as their children. As far as money goes, Shaunie really didn’t have to hide any assets because when she had those 4 children she was automatically set.

29 M&M;'s Sat, Sep 08, 2007 - 2:48 pm

she should have known better. she got what she didnt think was coming to her. what she did to her previous husband to be with shaq just came back around to her. u reap what u sow.

30 mcclain Sat, Sep 08, 2007 - 7:54 pm

i see why sean combs didnt get married to kim porter. he wanted to avoid all this. especially when u know you are not going to be right. he simply was not ready to married. he is willing to pay child support but not alimony nor a pre nup. smart guy, is knows how to play his cards right from suiations like this.

31 Ladydi Tue, Sep 11, 2007 - 8:35 pm

to the dumb-asses that commented directly to me. You are all blinded by money. Shaq building a community get real…of what bastard children. He slept around during their marriage and unfortunately super-head does speak the truth because her goal is to destroy and embarrass. Check your facts, Shaq is as dumb as a box of condoms that he never uses. We all know that he was bred and born to go to the NBA but to act like she wasn’t on his level get real. I am so sure he sat in his LSU classes to EARN his degree and well as the degree from University of Phoenix. Before you check me, check your facts and get it right. I am very sure no one took exams for Shaunie and yes she may have gotten the job because he was her husband but she held her own. The only women you seem to glorify are the ones who can take cum-shots to the faces and have big asses. A lot of men should pick wives who can help them like Clyde Drexler did. F*CK YOU I have the right to my opinion and will keep expressing it as I see fit. FREE SPEECH BITCHES!

32 dj chill from bako via detroit mi. Tue, Sep 11, 2007 - 9:06 pm

go head shaq, but its sad because the kids will luckout not having a mom and dad. she should be happy with all the mney and support but he is a big kid too.  keep the seat belt on and the money in the back pocket shaq.  there’s 1000 women who want some big d—-k.  you know.

33 Lets Talk Thu, Sep 13, 2007 - 2:27 am

Hey Yall, Lets STOP all the nonsense.
Because in the long run it’s all about the
CHILDREN 2 wrongs don’t make it right.
Lets’ pray that everything works out for the entire family. All things work together for the good of them that LOVE the LORD.

34 Show me the way Fri, Sep 14, 2007 - 3:22 pm

I think american spends too much time focusing on other folks lives, instead of their own. So what Shaq is divorcing.. Hollywood marriages are a joke to me anyway. Quote “Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone” Quote.

Shaq is a big boy and Shaunie is a big girl.. let them deal with their own issues and you need to deal with your own.

All of the people making the ignorant statements, and cursing need to really grow up and stop acting star struck, as if you really know anything about folks and their personal lives.. Rumors spread faster than the truth.. I know first hand.. Think about that one.

35 Clearly Sat, Sep 15, 2007 - 8:42 am

Show me the way- you sound very hypocritical…I guess you fell on to this page through a faulty Google search while you were doing research on the rainforest? PLEASE!

I think it is sad but did Shaq really expect anything different? He did not bother to marry his long time love and mother of his first child…and then went off with a married person looking to strike it big. These guys are not that attractive and let’s face it…they put a ball through a hoop for a living…not brain surgery. MOST of these girls end up leaving them prior to their careers being over OR have a man on the side. No one wants to talk about that!

I am telling you…you get more action as wife-of sitting on the sidelines AND the men that chase the wives know when the husbands are out of town because it is in the newspaper.

Everyone wants to act like it is the players getting hit on…NO it is the wives. Every corporate guy sitting ringside, CEOs, lawyers and etc. with season passes. The girls with the players for years are in it for the long haul and don’t play…but the girls who are there for the money and notoriety are all over it…so Shaq should have seen the handwriting on the wall. Karma…is not a lady.

36 Ha Sun, Sep 16, 2007 - 3:04 pm

HAHA! ^

37 CHIEF 00 Sun, Sep 16, 2007 - 3:37 pm

MESSAGE TO ALL GUYS WITH MONEY #1 DON’T MARRY A BLACK WOMAN THIS CAN HAPPEN TO YOU! #2 IF YOU LOOK LIKE A TROLL REALIZE THAT THESE BEAUTIFUL BLACK WOMAN ARE AFTER YOUR MONEY. #3 IF YOU ARE RATED A 5 OR A 6 LOOK FOR SOMEONE WHO IS IN YOUR CLASS #4 DON’T GET MARRIED AT ALL YOU CAN GET SOME ASS WITHOUT BEING MARRIED. #5 WEAR A CONDOM, THEY WANT A BABY SO THEY CAN GET CHILD SUPPORT. THEY DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU OR THAT CHILD. THIS IS COMING FROM A BLACK MAN SO I DON’T WANT ANYONE SAYING THAT THIS IS A RACE ISSUE. IT’S SAD TO SAY BUT IT IS TRUE. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF LOWLIFE BLACK WOMEN DOING THIS. GET A JOB OF YOUR OWN, TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES, STOP LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE CARE OF YOU. YOU WONDER WHY A LOT OF YOU ARE SINGLE. YOU WONDER WHY WE GO TO WHITE GIRLS. WELL HERE IS YOU ANSWER. THERE ARE TOO MANY OF YOU THAT ARE SLIME.

38 Ladydi Sun, Sep 16, 2007 - 7:29 pm

Why do you act like this is just a black woman’s game and choose to insult black women.
It is just a money and fame game like what “clearly” said and “Smart Black Woman” said.
Obviously, you don’t know the stories of Lorraine Bracco who cheated on Harvey Keitel and left him for Edward James of “American Me” fame. Or the woman who left Al Pacino for a billionaire. These people black, white, latino, whatever who travel in these circles move on and upward. Some of them are bred and schooled to do this. Honestly, how long do you think Donald Trump and wife #3 will be together. In a few years, she might be married or kickin’ it with Regis Philbin or whatever baller she can find. What do you say to Russell Simmons? Kimora cheated on him. Is that acceptable because she is bi-racial and you only choose to insult and degrade women when both parents are black? No you are not a racist. You are still on the plantation thinking that the white man’s ice and women are colder.

39 CHIEF 00 Mon, Sep 17, 2007 - 2:07 pm

LADYDI, NO THIS IS NOT ONLY A BLACK WOMAN THING BUT FOR THE MOST PART THESE ARE BLACK WOMEN THAT ARE DOING THIS. WHEN I SAY THESE THINGS I AM NOT TRYING TO PUT BLACK WOMEN DOWN I AM JUST TELLING IT LIKE IT IS. I AM TRYING TO TEACH THAT THIS IS WRONG AND THEY SHOULD STOP THIS. YES THEIR ARE SITUATIONS SUCH AS YOU MENTIONED BUT MOST OF THE TIME WE KNOW WHO ARE DOING THIS. I AM NOT SAYING IT IS YOU BECAUSE THERE ARE GOOD BLACK WOMEN OUT THERE AND YOU ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THEM. THE FACT REMAINS THAT THOSE SCUMS THAT ARE BLACK AND DO THIS NEED TO STOP IT. WHY DO YOU THINK THERE ARE SO MANY BLACK BABY MOMMAS OUT THERE. SOCIETY LIKES TO BLAME THE MEN BUT THE WOMEN HAVE THE FINAL SAY IN WHO YOUR BABIES DADDY IS. HOW MANY OF THEM ARE SITTING AROUND TRYING TO HAVE A BABY SO THEY CAN TRAP A MAN, GET CHILD SUPPORT. IN SOME CASES THERE ARE MEN NOT TAKING CARE OF THERE CHILDREN AND I CAN SAY TO THEM GO TO HELL. BUT THE WOMEN THAT KNOW THERE IS NO FUTURE WITH THESE MEN AND CONTINUE TO HAVE 8 BABY DADDIES NEED TO STOP THIS. YOU DON’T SEE THIS AS MUCH IN OTHER RACES DO YOU. THERE SHOULD BE A LAW YOU SHOULD GET ONE TIME TO BE A SINGLE MOTHER AFTER THAT WE TAKE THE OTHER CHILDREN AWAY FROM YOU SO THEY CAN HAVE A HOME WITH BOTH PARENTS. A SINGLE MOTHER CAN NEVER BE A FATHER.

40 CHIEF 00 Mon, Sep 17, 2007 - 3:12 pm

LADYDI, I JUST READ ALL OF YOUR REDICULOUS COMMENTS. I CHANGED MY MIND YOU MUST BE A GOLD DIGGER YOURSELF. AND FOR ME TO SAY YOU MIGHT BE A GOOD BLACK WOMAN, I TAKE THAT BACK. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT SHE SHOULD BE SAVING AND STEALING HIS MONEY? SHE DISGUST ME AND YOU THINK LIKE HER SO YOU DISGUST ME TOO YOU ARE THE TYPICAL BLACK WOMAN. AFTER I READ YOUR COMMENTS YOU PROVED MY POINTS.

41 Ladydi Mon, Sep 17, 2007 - 3:38 pm

You seem to be very angry and make sweeping judgements. I read your first comments and actually do agree with your points. HOWEVER, when you attack and call women BLACK WOMEN names then you are perpetuating the problem. First, neither I nor you know them. Who knows what went on behind close doors. She could be a gold digger and he could just be a dumb ass whore. HOWEVER, the comments you make about women is very disappointing because you place no responsibility with the men. This is a 2-way street. The men are just as accountable. To let the men off the hook is shameful. The sad part if the men looked at more women of class and education as mates then the “video whores and skeezers” you refer to wouldn’t have a chance. So the men should be more selective in the women they chose. You and I would agree but you attack the women, especially black women without holding these high-paid athletes and entertainers accountable. All pussy ain’t good for you be it black or white or latino or asian.
But you act like all baby-mama drama comes from black women. It doesn’t. All I am saying is be fair in your assessment. Sadly, women ALL women have degraded themselves to a sub-standard level. It is time for women to stop letting sexual images dictate who we are and how we will be treated. That’s all I am saying. Whether you agree or disagree is your right. This is a place for dialogue and exchange of ideas. Let’s keep it at that and stop the personal attacks. I don’t know you and you don’t know me we just disagree and should be man enough and woman enough to do so.

42 CHIEF 00 Mon, Sep 17, 2007 - 7:22 pm

LADYDI, AM I ANGRY? YES I AM. WHY? BECAUSE I AM SICK OF SEEING THE BABY MOMMAS AROUND. THIS IS WHY OUR YOUTH GROW UP THE WAY THAT THEY DO. I WISH THEY WERE SWEEPING JUDGEMENTS BUT THE FACT IS THAT THEY AREN’T. I AM A PERSON THAT WOULD NEVER JUDGE ANYBODY. CALLING THESE WOMEN NAMES, THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO DO THEIR NEVER GOING TO STOP. I DO AGREE, HOWEVER, THAT IT’S NOT ALL BLACK WOMEN IT’S JUST TOO MANY OF THEM TO FIND THE GOOD ONES. I WORK IN A HOSPITAL WHICH IS 95% FEMALE AND ALMOST EVERY BLACK MOTHER HAS AT LEAST 2 OR 3 BABY DADDIES, THEY ARE RUDE TO THE PATIENTS, THEY WALK AROUND POUTING LIKE THE WORLD OWES THEM SOMETHING, AIN’T GOT NO HUSBAND (YOU WONDER WHY). WHILE THE WHITE, SPANISH, OR ANY OTHER RACE ARE SETTLED DOWN HAVE, 1 CHILDS FATHER, TREAT THE PATIENTS WITH RESPECT. LADY YOU HAVE TO AGREE SOME OF THESE ARE BLACK WOMEN THINGS. PLACING RESPONSIBILITY ON MEN WE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF OUR CHILDREN THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE BUT JUST PAYING CHILD SUPPORT IS NOT ALL WE ARE WORTH. THIS IS WHAT THE COURT SYSTEM SEEMS TO THINK AND THESE WOMEN DON’T EVEN CARE AS LONG AS THEY GET THEIR CHILD SUPPORT. NO FATHER USUALLY EQUALS BAD THINGS FOR CHILDREN. YOU SAY THAT IT IS A 2-WAY STREET BUT IT IS NOT WOMEN HAVE THE STREET WE HAVE THE SIDEWALK, WOMEN HAVE THE FINAL SAY TO WHO THEIR CHILDS FATHER IS THEY CAN SAY ABORT OR KEEP IT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE MAN SAYS. THIS IS WHY MOST OF THE BLAME SHOULD GO TO THE WOMEN. NOW I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SITUATIONS WHERE THE 2 PARTIES AGREE TO HAVE A CHILD AND THE SORRY ASS MAN WALKS OFF I AM TALKING ABOUT THE ACCIDENTAL PREGNANCYS WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN THESE WOMEN ARE FALLING IN LOVE WHERE THEIR WAS NEVER NO LOVE, JUST SEX, IN THE FIRST PLACE. EVERYONE KNOWS WHEN IT IS A RELATIONSHIP OR A BOOTY CALL. I CAN NEVER HOLD THE ATHLETE RESPONSIBLE FOR MARRYING A WOMAN BECAUSE HE LOVES HER AND SHE IS STEALING HIS MONEY. BUT NOW LISTENING TO YOU I AM ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDING SOME OF YOUR POINTS AND YOU ARE RIGHT LETS KEEP IT AT DIALOGUE AND NOT NAME CALLING. I AM SORRY FOR THAT. WRITE BACK LADYDI HOPING TO HEAR FROM YOU.

43 Ladydi Mon, Sep 17, 2007 - 10:05 pm

I just left a job in social services and I think that the points we are talking about here are better fit for the topic Chris has on “the degradation of women in music”. I didn’t comment over there yet but I do think that we should be on that comments page. I HEAR YOU! I think what I see in the Shaq and Shaunie situation is just mess and if nothing else “CHOOSE OR PICK YOUR MATE CAREFULLY”. I can’t remember who commented but the whole thing is sad. Is she a gold digger is she a good woman is he full of shit or is he a good man? We just don’t know. But, i think to have their business out there like that is something else. What I see and where I agree with you is the underbelly and I do mean underbelly of our people who take pimpim’ and whoreing and these negative images and introuce it in how they live their lives. I HEAR YOU because my clients were 100% black women and we would go at it everyday because they are all about the hustle. But not generalizing because some had to do it to survive and the game out here is rough. You can’t do better until you know better. But I see whites and latinos embracing the being ghetto and gold-digger stuff too. I think we are women are in crisis. I and sometimes I am naive and sometimes I get mad and embarassed and sometimes I do embarassing shit as a black woman but I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IN AND KNOW THAT BLACK WOMEN ARE POWERFUL AND BEAUTIFUL ON THIS PLANET. I have a lot of faith in my sisterhood and I guess that’s why I (be it right or be it wrong) was on Shaunie’s side because I know they are going to tear her down because she is a black woman and we might just see Shaq’s next wife a white woman. I don’t have a problem with it but society makes us as black women feel like we are inadequate of sub-standard. That’s all. I appreciate the dialogue about the state of women, especially black women and we can continue that on that other section. I just refuse to comment about OJ!

44 CHIEF 00 Mon, Sep 17, 2007 - 10:42 pm

LADYDI, OJ IS GARBAGE THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY. NOW BLACK WOMEN ARE BEAUTIFUL AND CAN BE POWERFUL IF THEY, NOT ALL OF YOU, CLEAN UP THERE ACT. BUT COME ON THIS CHICK (SHAUNIE) WAS STEALING HIS MONEY, BUYING PROPERTY IN OTHER PEOPLES NAMES. SHE SHOULD BE PUT IN JAIL. YES, YOU ARE RIGHT YOU SEE ALL THESE WOMEN ARE ALL ABOUT THE HUSTLE (NOT ALL OF THEM) BUT THE BULK OF THEM ARE. SHE IS A GOLD DIGGER, WHY ELSE WAS SHE SQUIRTING OUT ALL THOSE CHILDREN. NOT BECAUSE SHE LOVES THEM OR HIM, FOR MONEY ONCE SHE LEFT SHAQ. THIS WAS A SET UP FROM DAY 1 LIKE ROBIN GIVENS AND MIKE TYSON. YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE GHETTO THING THAT IS IN ALL RACES. I SEE TOO MANY BLACK WOMEN EMBRACING SECTION 8, FOOD STAMPS, AND STATE ASSISTANCE. I HAVE CHILDREN BY 2 WOMEN 1 BLACK AND THE OTHER HISPANIC. THE HISPANIC WORKS EVERY DAY HARD TOO LOOKING TO BUY A HOUSE AND IS A GREAT MOTHER FOR MY CHILDREN. THE BLACK ONE… HAS NOT WORKED A DAY IN HER LIFE. SCAMMING FOR ANY KIND OF ASSISTANCE SHE CAN GET. HER DAUGHTER HAS A TATOO OF A THONG COMING OUT OF THE BACK OF HER PANTS. I KNOW THIS IS ONE SITUATION BUT THERE ARE MANY MORE LIKE THIS. I ALSO AGREE THAT WOMEN ARE IN DEEP CRISIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOLD THEMSELVES SO SHORT IN LIFE (VIDEO HO’S) AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS NO TURNING BACK. THE BAD ONES OUTWAY THE GOOD ONES BY TOO MUCH. LAST IF SHAQ MARRIES A WHITE WOMAN, WHO CAN BLAME HIM!!!!  ONCE AGAIN NOT ALL BLACK WOMEN ARE BAD BUT CHANGE IS NEEDED.

45 gilrl76 Tue, Sep 18, 2007 - 1:08 am

I people forget what marriage is all about. I’ve been married for seven years, and I’m going on 100 more. It’s not about the money. We don’t have money at all. We work very hard everyday, and we still have no special material things to show. But we are blessed with a home and 3 wonderful boys. That mean more to us than any amount of money. When you become man and wife you become as “ONE”. Not his or hers. That’s just an excuse for Shaq to get out of the marriage. I wouldn’t take shit from him. Just give me children, and we be happy. Money or no Money!

46 CHIEF 00 Tue, Sep 18, 2007 - 10:15 am

GIRL76, I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID BUT IF YOU ARE TELLING THE TRUTH AND DIDN’T WANT ANY MONEY YOU ARE THE MINORITY MOST OF THESE WOMEN THAT LUCK UP AND GET MARRIED TO THESE BALL PLAYERS ARE GOLD DIGGERS. WHY DO YOU THINK SHE HAD 4 KIDS IN 6 YEARS? CHILD SUPPORT WHICH WILL BE MUCH MORE THAN THE CHILDREN NEED SHE HERSELF WILL BE LIVING OFF THAT MONEY. WE WONDER WHY THEY “LEAVE YOUR ASS FOR A WHITE GIRL” HEY SHAQ, YOU’LL KNOW NEXT TIME BRO. LESSON LEARNED. OTHER BROTHERS WITH MONEY TAKE NOTES, IT’S ALL ABOUT THE HUSTLE WITH THESE GOLD DIGGERS.

47 dmoney Tue, Sep 18, 2007 - 6:40 pm

why why oneal thats a shame why areyou getting a divorcen. even thouh thats none of my buissness your fan dmoney

48 djjg Tue, Sep 18, 2007 - 6:42 pm

f**kyou an d your family///

49 huggy Tue, Sep 18, 2007 - 7:33 pm

Shaq should divorce her a—any woman cheats with the trainer made time to do her dirt regardless of the six kids. If i was Shaq i’ll get custody and break her a—down. The U

50 Money Manager Tue, Sep 18, 2007 - 8:18 pm

If you’re married and your mate gives you money, you can do whatever you want with it. If she chose to invest instead of purchasing 200 pairs of shoes, why is that wrong? It’s no secret that ball players run around with other women, so it was only a matter of time before enough was enough!

51 CHIEF 00 Tue, Sep 18, 2007 - 8:37 pm

MONEY MANAGER, TYPICAL WOMAN, IF YOU ARE MARRIED OR WITH A MAN HES SHOULD LISTEN TO THIS. YES SHE CAN INVEST OR DO SOMETHING POSITIVE WITH THE MONEY HE GAVE HER (IF HE GAVE IT TO HER) BUT NOT BEHIND HIS BACK. THATS WHATS WRONG WITH IT. BALLERS DO RUN AROUND BUT SHE KNEW THIS WHEN SHE GOT WITH HIM. SHE DIDN’T CARE BECAUSE SHE WAS IN IT FOR THE MONEY. IF ENOUGH IS ENOUGH THEN TAKE YOUR KIDS AND LEAVE NOT STEAL HIS MONEY. LIKE I SAID BEFORE SHE PUMPED OUT THOSE KIDS FOR A CHILD SUPPORT TRAP. TOO BAD THAT HE FELL FOR IT. SHE IS A GOLD DIGGER.

52 Richnlife Tue, Sep 18, 2007 - 11:40 pm

Yes, some black women are looking at this from a standpoint of getting these guys money. BUT you are forgetting Shaq had a woman who had a child for him and he left her to run the streets. No marriage or anything…then he married Shaunie a woman who was married when he met her. So if she is a gold digger the he was a whore digger. Do you honestly think you will go on in martial bliss when you abandoned the woman who stood by your side? NO

Oh and please give the white / black woman thing a rest. When these white girls leave and they do so prior to the athlete retiring so they can get half the money before he spends it all…they get more money than the black chicks because the courts see them as deserving more. Look at the money Nicole got from OJ versus his first wife…look at the money Michael Sharhan’s (sp) second wife who is white is getting versus the first wife who is black.

Most black men want the white women because they feel they are naive and sexually more out there. No they want to get at the athlete’s wallet. You can tell after they get done. Look at Junior Seau’s ex wife and look at his first wife.

These athletes need to recognize who had their back prior to their making it and who is in it for the fame and money. Look at the white guys who know this and don’t let their egos (or penis) get in the way. They go on and have long term families and usually end up coaching a pro team or announcing while Mr. Babies Everywhere…ends up broke and can’t buy a job! Ya better think! These men need to stop being whore diggers and they won’t get in this mess.

53 CHIEF 00 Wed, Sep 19, 2007 - 9:32 am

RICHNLIFE, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE BLACK AND YOU WANT TO STAND UP FOR THE BLACK GIRLS BUT YOU ARE WRONG. THESE BLACK WOMEN, ALTHOUGH NOT ALL, ARE OUT THERE TO TAKE THESE GUYS MONEY. AND MAYBE YOU CAN CALL SHAQ A WHORE DIGGER BECAUSE HE DUG UP THAT WHORE BUT THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT SHE IS A GOLD DIGGER. THERE AREN’T ANY BLACK WOMEN STANDING BY OUR SIDES WHEN WE DIDN’T HAVE THE MONEY THAT IS A MYTH PEOPLE NEED TO STOP SAYING THAT IT’S A LIE. THE BLACK/WHITE WOMAN THING IS TRUE OR BLACK MEN AND EVEN SOME BLACK WOMEN BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WILL ADMIT. OF COURSE THESE SITUATIONS THAT YOU BRING UP ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE THEIR ARE GOLD DIGGERS IN ANY RACE. BUT MOST OF THEM ARE BLACK. YOU MIGHT NOT BE ONE BUT IT IS OUR RACE OF WOMEN THAT DO THAT AND EVERYBODY IS STARTING TO CATCH ON TO IT THATS WHY BLACK MEN ARE DATING OUTSIDE THEIR RACE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING EASY OR NAIVE. BLACK GIRLS ARE OUT THERE IN THE BEDROOM TOO. THOSE WHITE GUYS THAT GO ON AND HAVE FAMILYS IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT MARRIED TO BLACK WOMEN. YOU CALL BLACK GUYS MR. BABIES EVERYWHERE, IF THESE BLACK 8 BABY DADDIES CHICKS WEREN’T SPREADING THEIR LEGS IN HOPE TO CATCH SOME CHILD SUPPORT THEN THESE MEN WOULD NOT HAVE 8 BABIES. THE SEX WAS CONSECTUAL THE BABIES WERE HER CHOICE. SO THE WOMAN SHOULD TAKE MOST OF THE BLAME. BLACK WOMEN NEED TO THINK OR YOU WILL BE THE LONELIEST RACE OF WOMEN IN THE WORLD. STOP THIS WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. ONCE AGAIN IT’S NOT ALL OF YOU BUT THE ONES THAT ARE DOING THIS ARE HOLDING YOU BACK. EXAMPLE SUPERHEAD!!!!!!

54 butterpecan Wed, Sep 19, 2007 - 4:38 pm

somehow the thought of giving Shaq a blow job seems quite a feat….

55 Richnlife Thu, Sep 20, 2007 - 8:07 pm

No man…you are wrong…why are there so many corporate, professional and entrepreneurs white men who date black women? Why was massa going out back to the shack to sleep with Sally? And bought her freedom? He left his wife in the nice house to come out back with a real woman who he could tell his troubles to and ease his comforts. Fact is Sally was able to get the black man’s freedom as well as her own! Through out history we have been the decent man’s chosen one. Only the black men who want to mess over women go to white women (most of the time) because they are naive and easy prey. (A brotha looking over my shoulder at the airport just laughed and confirmed this.) 

I know many of a corporate sista who won’t touch a black guy because of the way they want to use their mommas then step to their woman’s house and not work! Let’s see Diana Ross, Diana Carroll, Iman (who use to be married to a ball player…you have not seen her with a brotha since the 80’s), Halle Berry, Naomi Campbell all have relationships with white men who appreciate them more. Black men only think with one head it seems. Which is why they have the stereotype that they do…animalistic, babymakers, noncommittal and slackers. They can’t stop sexin’ long enough AND you are wrong…if they keep waving their stuff at strippers, strollers (the side walk kind), flight attendants and video vixens then they are going to get what they got.

Like a friend of mine who is a doctor said, “I know better than to go to some club and let these chicks know that I am a doctor. Instead…I go home to wife…the person who was with me from the beginning.” Why do these idiots think differently?
These chicks would be on Bill Gates if he let them…but he is smarter than that. He found some one equally yoked some of these black men need to get smarter. AND please stop talking about someone spreading their legs when some of these ballers should give up wearing a zipper because their zippers are over worked. BTW wasn’t Kobe caught with a white chick who got paid?

Black men need to rise up. These ball players are chasing women and getting screwed over by their agents who steal their money. Instead of being a family man they are distracted by chasing skirts instead of chasing their books to see where their money is being spent. A good family is the only way our community is going to thrive instead of the habitual whoring that is going on. I know Jackie Robinson is turning in his grave…may he rest in peace!

Chief you lost your headband and feathers on this one. If you make it to the big leagues and get paid you need to stand up and be a man. None of these guys are attractive…stop to think as to why chickie is into to you now when you could not buy a date in high school? You better go back and make it with girlie who was there for you from the start. The only think Ms. Stripper finds attractive is your wallet and will be gone before the retirement party.

56 CHIEF 00 Thu, Sep 20, 2007 - 10:03 pm

RICHNLIFE, NO , I COULD NEVER BE WRONG YOU ARE JUST IN DENIAL. THESE GUYS THAT YOU CLAIM ARE GOING AFTER THESE BLACK WOMEN BECAUSE THEY ARE INTREAGUED. AFTER THEY SEE THE RUDE ATTITUDES AND THE MONEY HUNGRINESS THEY WILL GO BACK HOME. THAT MASSA STUFF THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HAPPENED IN THE 1800’S IT DOSEN’T HAPPEN NOW. I DON’T KNOW WHAT HISTORY THAT A BLACK WOMAN IS A DECENT MANS CHOICE. IF THAT WERE TRUE THERE WOULDN’T BE SO MANY OF THEM LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR 5 CHILDREN. ONLY A BLACK MAN THAT WANTS SOMEONE THAT WILL NOT ROB HIM OF HIS MONEY WILL GO OUT OF HIS RACE. WE HAVE THE STEREOTYPE OF BEING BABY MAKERS BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY BLACK WOMEN TRYING TO TRAP MEN WITH BABIES TO MAKE SURE THE MAN WILL NOT LEAVE THEM. MESSAGE: THAT DOSEN’T WORK. I HAVE THIS SAME ARGUEMENT WITH MY BEST FRIEND WHO IS A WOMAN AND SHE (WAS) ON YOUR SIDE BUT AFTER SHE CAME FROM WORK ONE DAY SHE SAID THAT I WAS RIGHT THAT IS ALL ABOUT THE HUSTLE FOR THESE (BLACK WOMEN). THEY ARE SATISFIED WITH SECTION 8, FOOD STAMPS, CASH ASSISTANCE INSTEAD OF MAKING SOMETHING OF THEIR LIVES. BLACK MEN DO NEED TO RISE UP BUT SO DO THESE BLACK WOMEN AND TRUST ME THEY HAVE MORE RISING THEN WE DO. YOU MENTION STRIP CLUBS BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU ALL RACES OF MEN GO TO STRIP CLUBS SO I DON’T UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT ON THAT ONE. THERE WAS A SHOW ON REAL SPORTS (HBO) ON THESE WOMEN THAT HANG OUT AT PARTIES TO SLEEP WITH THESE BALLERS TO GET INTO THEIR POCKETS AND THE REPORTER, WHO WAS BLACK, WAS ASKED WHY WERE THERE ANY WHITE GIRLS INTERVIEWED FOR THIS STORY AND HE SAID AT THESE PARTIES THERE WEREN’T ANY WHITE GIRLS DOING THIS. IT’S A BLACK WOMAN THING. IT IS THE FEMALES CHOICE TO HAVE A BABY WE ARE JUST DRUG INTO IT. NOW I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MEN THAT LEAVE THEIR FAMILIES BEHIND THEY ARE WRONG. YOU DON’T SEE THE 5 BABY DADDIES IN ANOTHER RACE HMMMM…... I WONDER WHY. YOU MIGHT WANT TO PROTECT YOUR RACE OF WOMEN AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT BUT I JUST TELL IT LIKE IT IS. I AM TIRED OF SITTING BACK WATCHING THESE WOMEN WAITING FOR CHILD SUPPORT CHECKS AND NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR THEMSELVES. THERE’S THAT MYTH AGAIN THAT THERE WAS A BLACK GIRL AROUND WHEN YOU DIDN’T HAVE MONEY. THAT’S JUST NOT TRUE HERE IS ANOTHER STORY BEFORE I GO MY SISTER WENT TO SCHOOL WITH MARK MACON. HE WAS THOUGHT TO BE GOING PRO IN THE NBA HE LOOKED LIKE PREDATOR (UGLY). HIS LAST YEAR OF COLLEGE 4 COUNT THEM 4 WOMEN ENDED UP PREGNANT WITH HIS CHILD IN HIS SENIOR YEAR, QUESTION HOW MANY OF THEM WERE ANY OTHER RACE BUT BLACK? ANSWER 0. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY ALL GOT PREGNANT? ANYWAY HE PLAYED FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND DIDN’T REALLY MAKE ANY MONEY. NOW THESE STUPID CHICKS HAVE 4 LITTLE BABBIES THAT THEY REALLY NEVER WANTED. ITS A BLACK WOMAN THING. ARE THERE ANY WOMEN IN ANY OTHER RACE THAT ARE WRITING BOOKS ABOUT WHO THEY F*CK? NO, BECAUSE THEY RESPECT THEMSELVES TOO MUCH. BY THE WAY I AM NOT SAYING THAT YOU ARE ONE OF THESE WOMEN I AM JUST SAYING YOU ARE DEFENDING PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP NOT DEFENSE. FOUND MY HEADBAND AND FEATHERS. LOL WRITE BACK MAYBE WE CAN STRAIGHTEN THESE WOMEN AND SOME MEN TOO OUT.

57 VONCARLOSDIAZ Fri, Sep 21, 2007 - 2:34 am

The last thing that I will divorce my spouse over is money issues. If I discovered that my spouse wasn’t managing our finances (whether it was a dollar or millions of dollars) in a manner that wasn’t satisfactory to me, I would explain to my spouse that I don’t think you understand how to manage our assets in a way that is benefitting to both of us. Therefore, I am discontinue you from managing our assets until you are educated enough to take on that responsibility. On the other hand: if my spouse and I had reached irreconciable difference, then I may consider ending the relationship. True love is based on honor and respect for one another.

58 CHIEF 00 Fri, Sep 21, 2007 - 9:00 am

VONCARLOSDIAZ, I DO AGREE WITH YOU PARTIALLY. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SITUATION IS THAT SHE WAS STEALING HIS MONEY NOT MISMANAGING IT. A GOLD DIGGER LIKE THIS YOU CAN NEVER HONOR OR RESPECT.

59 Contract Fri, Sep 21, 2007 - 10:06 pm

If anyone is thinking about getting into a relationship with the oposite sex read what the “CONTRACT” says (Gods word) than all of this will be avoided.

60 Richnlife Wed, Sep 26, 2007 - 8:51 am

Chief the first statement…“You could never be wrong” let me know immediately I am dealing with a person who is not reality based. I could not go on any further as I am not a fan of phonies, liars, and males with nothing to offer…I am also not a fan of fiction…so I think it best I let you be on your way. You certainly don’t meet the standards of anything I would ever have any true conversation with…I was trying to assist you in all your misguidedness. However, your issues are too profound and deep without a true medical long time treatment plan.

Keep wishing on the stars…after all the seems to be all you will ever truly be able to do. You are simply too out of touch of reality for me to continue any dialog with you.

Btw…A Whoredigger is a term used about these guys in the pros who are just out for sex in every city. They are the whores and they continue to say and do anything to get these women overlooking AIDS, multiple children, their careers or etc. At least I thought I would educate you on that before you are dismissed. DISMISSED…Now buy a clue…Please!

61 CHIEF 00 Wed, Sep 26, 2007 - 3:24 pm

RICHINLIFE, REALITY BASED IS WHAT I AM. THERE ARE TOO MANY BLACK WOMEN THAT WILL NOT DO FOR THEMSELVES AND THAT IS A FACT AND YOU KNOW THAT. YOU EDUCATE ME, I AM SMARTER THAN YOU COULD EVER BE YOU ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THESE WOMEN THAT IS WHY YOU ARE SO OFFENDED BY MY COMMENTS. YOU LET ME BE ON MY WAY, I AM ON MY WAY THERE IS NO YOU LETTING ME DO NOTHING!!! EDUCATE, THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO, THESE WOMEN NEED TO LISTEN UP. THAT IS WHY THEY DON’T HAVE A MAN NO ONE CAN TAKE A CHICK WITH 5 BABY DADDIES SERIOUSLY. WISHING ON STARS, THE ONLY WISH I HAVE IS THAT THESE BLACK WOMEN START RESPECTING THEMSELVES SO BLACK MEN WILL START TAKING THEM SERIOUS AGAIN. SO THAT THEY CAN BE TRUSTED WITH OUR MONEY. YOU ARE OUT OF TOUCH WHEN YOU SAY I AM DISMISSED. YOU CAN NEVER DISMISS ME. YOU WATCH MAURY AND SEE HOW MANY TIMES THE BLACK WOMAN BRINGS THE WRONG BABY DADDY UP THERE VS THE OTHER RACES AND SEE WHO IS REALLY OUT OF TOUCH….. THAT WOULD BE YOU. I STAND BY MY STATEMENT ABOUT THIS, I COULD NEVER BE WRONG…. LISTEN AND LEARN OR BE ONE OF THEM THE CHOICE IS YOURS.

62 Ladydi Fri, Sep 28, 2007 - 12:08 pm

Chief, I read your comments and Richnlife I read yours. The only thing that I want to comment on is to you Chief you state you have 2 children by 2 different women. You go through the appreciation you have for the Hispanic mother because she is on her grind but the black woman is lazy and does nothing. But what is your responsibility in the choices you made? This is what I think Richnlife and I both are saying. You blame, blame, blame black women but men, BLACK MEN need to make GOOD choices as well. Also, is your daughter is wearing a thong or is it the mother? In any case, do you give your daughter positive images and information about women. Please don’t under-estimate the male influence, especially, the father’s over his girls. It is probably the reason why some black women make horrible decisions in picking men. So this is where BLACK MEN have to be accountable. Does your child see you interact positively with her mother or even with her as a child? Just asking because we all have to take responsibility. I will never forget the Chris Rock joke that he says relationships are hard. You may be rich she may be poor, she may be educated you may not, you may be a black man and she may be a black woman. It is so true. Sometimes we black women and black men treat each other so badly no wonder other races don’t have respect for our black men and black women. We don’t!

63 CHIEF 00 Fri, Sep 28, 2007 - 3:54 pm

LADYDI, FIRST LET ME SAY THAT I ENJOY READING AND RESPOMDING TO YOUR COMMENTS. NEXT LET ME SAY AGAIN TO ALL PEOPLE THAT I AM NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS ALL BLACK WOMEN BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY THAT ACT THIS WAY. YOU SAY THAT I GO ON AND APPRECIATE THE HISPANIC WOMAN AND I SAY THAT THE BLACK WOMAN IS LAZY. I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE THAT IS THE TRUTH. THIS WOMAN IS OLDER THAN 40 (I DON’T WANT TO PUT HER EXACT AGE), AND HAS NEVER HELD A FULL TIME JOB IN HER LIFE. WAITING FOR CHILD SUPPORT CHECKS AND STATE CHECKS, ON SECTION 8, GETTING FOOD STAMPS DOING NOTHING FOR HERSELF. YOU ASK ME WHAT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY IN CHOOSING THE WOMAN. I TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN SMARTER THAN TO HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE A MAN AND A WOMANS RIGHT TO CHOOSE. THIS WAY ALL THIS 4 AND 5 BABY DADDIES WOULDN’T HAPPEN AS MUCH. WHAT PEOPLE DON’T UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING FOR TWO WILLING PEOPLE TO HAVE A CHILD BUT THESE WOMEN THAT ARE LAYING DOWN TRYING TO HAVE A BABY TO KEEP A MAN THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT IT DOES NOT WORK AND PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO HEAR IT BUT THAT IS A BLACK WOMAN THING. OUR RACE IS THE RACE WITH THE MOST SINGLE PARENTS IN IT. I BLAME BLACK WOMEN BECAUSE I AM TIRED OF HEARING THAT BLACK MEN ARE DEAD BEAT DADS WHEN IT IS THE WOMANS CHOICE TO BRING THESE CHILDREN INTO THE WORLD AND LIKE IT OR NOT THE MAN IS JUST DRUG INTO IT. THERE ARE MEN THAT LEAVE THEIR FAMILIES AND I THINK THAT IS WRONG. PEOPLE SAY THAT IF YOU AREN’T HAPPY YOU SHOULD LEAVE, I DISAGREE WITH THAT, FOR THE CHILDREN, YOU SHOULD TRY TO WORK IT OUT AS LONG AS YOU CAN. THE THONG INCIDENT THAT WAS A TATOO OF A THONG ON (HER) DAUGHTERS BEHIND. HER DAUGHTER WAS 15 AT THE TIME. I GIVE MY DAUGHTER POSITIVE IMAGES ALL THE TIME BUT I ALSO TELL HER ABOUT 4 AND5 BABY DADDY RULE. SHE IS NOT GOING TO BE ONE OF THEM. MY CHILDREN SEES ME INTERACT WITH THEIR MOTHER ALL THE TIME .YOU ARE TOTALLY RIGHT BOTH SIDES NEED TO STAND UP AND DO BETTER. BELIEVE ME I GET TIRED OF HEARING WHEN A GUY IS PROUD OF HAVING 5 KIDS WITH 4 BABY MOMMAS. HE WILL SAY THAT I TAKE CARE OF ALL MY KIDS. THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE. SO WHAT YOU SEND MONEY THAT DOSEN’T MAKE YOU A GOOD FATHER. THAT CHRIS ROCK JOKE IS TRUE. WE DO NEED TO START TREATING OUR OWN RACE BETTER BUT I REALLY THINK IT STARTS WITH SOME OF THESE CHICKEN HEAD WOMEN. I HATE THE FACT THAT SOME BLACK WOMEN MAKE ALL BLACK WOMEN LOOK LIKE GOLD DIGGERS, MEAN, AND HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN BY DIFFERENT FATHERS BUT THE FACT REMAINS THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM OUT THERE. I HOPE OUR NEXT GENERATION OT YOUNG BLACK WOMEN CAN CHANGE THIS PATTERN. THEY HAVE THE POWER, CHOOSE YOUR CHILDRENS FATHER WISELY. IT STARTS WITH THE WOMAN CHOICE. YOU REALLY DON’T KNOW HOW MUCH I WANT TO STOP ALL THE SINGLE PARENT HOMES.

64 As a matter of fact Thu, Oct 04, 2007 - 2:05 am

Chief 00, I want to know something are you recently dating someone of another ethnic group? How dare you make a comment “Don’t marry a black woman” Is that what your father told you when he married your mother or when he laid down with the woman who conceived you? As a matter of fact are you a black man? A white woman would do the same thing Shaunie did. As a matter of fact there are white women out there that are doing what Shaunie did even right now, how do you know it’s not happening to you? You need to watch what you say I know that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but be careful because you’re saying things that are derogatory and you’re becoming a snob “I think I’m better because I’m not dating or marrying a BLACK WOMAN” that is exactly what you’re saying. I hate it when people JUST LIKE YOU!!! make stupid comments like that. If you’re going to state facts when it comes to women and money then state all of the facts about women of other ethnic groups and money. I was shocked to see NFL as well as NBA players married to white women AND HAD KIDS BY THEM!!! NOW YOU TELL ME ARE THEY NOT LOOKING TO HANG THESE PLAYERS OUT TO DRY AFTER THEIR CAREER? STOP BEING IGNORANT AND ARROGANT WITH YOUR COMMENTS AND WAKE UP AND ACT LIKE YOU HAVE SENSE! You are very much blinded by this situation. What Shaunie did was wrong we all know that, but shed light on women of other ethnic groups, because it’s not just black women that’s doing this.

65 CHIEF 00 Thu, Oct 04, 2007 - 3:02 am

AS A MATTER OF FACT, DO YOU THINK THAT I AM JUST MAKING THIS UP? TRUST ME I HAVE DONE RESEARCH. I WATCH THE WAY THAT THESE WOMEN ACT. IGNORANT, I AM NOT. I WILL TELL YOU, YES I AM DATING OUTSIDE MY RACE. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I AM SAYING. I AM WILLING TO GIVE EVERY PERSON THE RIGHT TO PROVE THEMSELVES. THESE WOMEN DO THIS SHIT.IF YOU WANT TO SAY BE CAREFUL, I HAVE SAT BACK AND BEEN CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT I SAY LONG ENOUGH. NOW IT IS TIME FOR ME TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THIS SHIT. MY RACE OF WOMEN NEED TO STRAIGHTEN UP AND GET THE RESPECT THAT THEY DESERVE. WHITE WOMEN ARE DOING THIS BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THERE ARE BLACK WOMEN THAT WAKE UP AND FEEL THAT THIS IS THEIR JOB. I DO NOT THINK THAT I AM BETTER BECAUSE I AM NOT DATING A BLACK WOMAN.I FEEL SAFER THOUGH!!! IF I AM BECOMING A SNOB (WHICH IS I AM NOT ) IT IS TIME FOR ME TO BECOME A SNOB BECAUSE THESE WOMEN NEED TO START TO LEARN THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING. YOU TELL ME TO ACT LIKE I HAVE SINCE, I AM THAT IS WHY I AM TRYING TO STRAIGHTEN THESE WOMEN OUT. I DON’T MAKE STUPID COMMENTS I TELL IT LIKE IT IS. IF YOU DON’T WANT TO SEE IT THEN IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS BLINDED. ONCE AGAIN, I WILL NEVER SAY THAT IT IS ALL BLACK WOMEN BUT TOO MANY OF THEM ARE DOING THIS. THEN THEY WANT RESPECT.  THIS IS THE REASON WHY NFL AND NBA PLAYERS ARE MARRIED OUTSIDE THEIR RACE AND HAVE INTERACIAL CHILDREN. THE SAD PART IS THAT YOU JUST WILL NOT GET IT. YOU NEED TO STEP UP AND HELP YOUR SISTERS TEACH THEM INSTEAD OF DEFENDING THERE ACTIONS. YOU TELL ME WHY YOU THINK BLACK MEN DATE OUTSIDE THERE RACE? I KNOW THE ANSWER. BY THE WAY, YES I AM A BLACK MAN SO PEOPLE NEED TO LISTEN WHEN A BLACK MAN IS SAYING IT!!! BOTTOM LINE IS THAT I WOULD NEVER JUST MAKE THESE COMMENTS IF THEY WEREN’T TRUE. HELP YOUR SISTERS OR LET THIS SHIT JUST KEEP HAPPENING .THE CHOICE IS YOURS.

66 As a matter of fact Thu, Oct 04, 2007 - 1:33 pm

Chief 00, I must say that there are more white women that are out here doing this then there is black women. I am not blinded as I said before what Shaunie did was wrong! However, white women do this just as much as black women. I do not uphold this sort of thing at all. And I say again stop being IGNORANT and Arrogant!!! “Don’t marry a black woman” is the comment that you made how dare you. Why don’t you examine the woman that you’re dating right now! She is probably doing what Shaunie did to Shaq. Oh, and by the way you still didn’t answer my question is that what your father told you when he married your mother or when he laid down the woman who conceived you? Why don’t you ponder on that, then get back to me!!! AGAIN WAKE UP AND ACT LIKE YOU HAVE SENSE!!!

67 CHIEF 00 Thu, Oct 04, 2007 - 2:47 pm

AS A MATTER OF FACT, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MY PARENTS THEY ARE HAPPILY MARRIED AND BEEN TOGETHER OVER 50 YEARS.TO SAY THAT THERE ARE MORE WHITE WOMEN DOING THIS THAT IS CRAZY. BLACK WOMEN HAVE THIS THING THAT THEY CAN’T DO ANYTHING WRONG. AS FOR THE WOMAN THAT I AM DATING SHE MAKES MORE MONEY THAN I DO AND I MAKE GOOD MONEY. DON’T TRY TO MAKE HER INTO WHAT THESE BLACK WOMEN ARE. HOW DARE I SAY DON’T MARRY A BLACK WOMAN. HOW DARE YOU SAY OTHERWISE! I DON’T WANT NO WOMAN WITH 3 OR 4 BABY DADDIES. THESE WOMEN NEED TO GET A GRIP AND WHEN YOU KEEP DEFENDING THESE IGNORANT WOMEN THAT INCOURAGES THEIR BEHAVIOR. THERE ARE A LOT OF MEN THAT FEEL THE WAY I DO BUT THEY WILL NOT SAY IT OPENLY. I WILL. I STAND BY MY COMMENT AND WILL NOT BACK DOWN UNTIL I SEE REASON TO. HERE IS A QUESTION FOR YOU WHY DO YOU THINK THAT BLACK MEN WITH MONEY DATE AND MARRY OUTSIDE THEIR RACE? IF BEING ARROGANT IS TRYING TO WAKE THESE BLACK WOMEN UP THEN I AM ARROGANT AND I WILL CONTINUE TO BE UNTIL THESE WOMEN START TO RESPECT THEMSELVES. WAKE UP BLACK WOMEN.

68 As a matter of fact Thu, Oct 04, 2007 - 7:09 pm

And that is good that she’s making more money than you, not saying that you’re not the man in the relationship, but you need to be careful in making derogatory comments such as “Don’t marry a black woman.” I do not appreciate that. I am a black woman and like I said in my previous comment I do not uphold what Shaunie has done. Now I have another question to ask you do you have any black sisters? If not then I’m sure you have black female cousins that you are close to. I’m sure they’re very nice young ladies. Do you think they would appreciate the comment that you made. See this is the problem with a lot of black men ESPECIALLY YOU! Think before you make hidious comments like the one you made before. You sound very much hypocritical.  AGAIN ACT LIKE YOU HAVE SOME SENSE!!!

69 CHIEF 00 Thu, Oct 04, 2007 - 7:50 pm

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT AS A BLACK MAN I CAN’T SIT AND WAIT AROUND TO SEE WHICH BLACK WOMAN WILL NOT DO THIS KIND OF SHIT. LIKE IT OR NOT THIS IS A BLACK WOMAN THING. NOT SAYING THAT OTHER RACES OF WOMEN DON’T DO THIS BUT I SEE THIS IN OUR RACE THE MOST. I SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT BABY DADDIES IN OUR RACE MORE THAN ANY OTHER RACE. LIKE I SAID BEFORE THESE WOMAN HAVE THE FINAL SAY IN WHO THEY WANT TO BE THEIR BABIES FATHER. SO I DO PUT MOST OF THE BLAME ON THEM. BY THE WAY I CLEARLY THOUGHT BEFORE I MADE THAT COMMENT I HAVE BEEN HOLDING MY TONGUE FOR YEARS AND WATCHING ALL THESE SECTION 8, WELFARE CHECK, STATE ASSISTANCE CHICKS NOT DO NOTHING FOR THEMSELVES. GROWING UP THEY SHOULD BE TAUGHT HOW SPECIAL THEY ARE AS YOUNG LADIES BUT SINGLE PARENT HOUSEHOLDS ARE FAILING AT AN ALARMING RATE. ABOUT MY SISTERS APPRECIATING WHAT I SAID, NO, THEY WOULDN’T BUT SOMETIMES THINGS NEED TO BE SAID TO WAKE PEOPLE UP. FORTUNATELY MY SISTERS ARE ALL NOT IN THE SITUATIONS THAT THEY WOMEN I AM TALKING ABOUT. MY COMMENT MAY HAVE BEEN OUT OF LINE BUT I HOPE IT GETS ATTENTION FROM THE CHICKEN HEADS. ALL I AM SAYING IF YOU HAVE ANY BLACK FEMALE FRIENDS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO DO FOR THEM. TELL THEM THAT THEY ARE A DYING BREED. BY THE WAY, I HOPE YOU DON’T THINK THAT I DON’T WANT TO SEE BLACK WOMEN DO GOOD. THIS IS WHY I AM STEPPING UP AND SAYING THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THEM CHANGE ...

70 As a matter of fact Fri, Oct 05, 2007 - 1:25 am

I just hope you realize that there are more white women on welfare than black women. But, guess what society don’t want to tell us that. I want you to understand that I’m focusing on you in terms of the comment you made. I don’t have a problem with interracial couples or marriages, what I do have a problem with is women of other ethnic groups taking to our black men for what they have and not who they are, and the athletes are very much targeted. I was just watching HGTV a few months ago and there was a black NFL player on there remodeling his home as a surprise to his white wife, his teammates and spouses helped in the remodeling oh and guess what they wee white “Jan deserves this” “Jan deserves that” is all the white wives kept saying I ALREADY KNEW THAT JAN WAS WHITE BECAUSE OF HER NAME, and they all had kids. I was a little bothered by that show. But, the minute these players run out of money then the wives want to leave them why because they can’t do anything for them anymore and that’s when they feel embarrassed. that’s the kind of crap that I’m talking about just like that. Here it is we as black people women in particular knows what it is to struggle and would very much stand by our black men when things get rough, so don’t get on here and try to educate me about black women. I already know what the deal is. I would be upset if my brother(s) made a comment like that knowing that they have a sister whose black and is blessed to have a degree and not worry about if I have to depend on a man to take care of me. My parents especially my mother taught me well. This is why I’m getting on your case about the comment you made. It’s very appaulding to read your foolish and arrogant comments.

71 CHIEF 00 Fri, Oct 05, 2007 - 8:54 am

AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE IS A TRICK TO SAYING THAT THERE MORE WHITES ON WALFARE THEN BLACKS. THERE ARE MORE WHITE PEOPLE THAN BLACKS SO THAT MIGHT BE TRUE BUT PERCENTAGE WISE THERE ARE MORE BLACKS ON WALFARE. TO SAY THAT WHITE WOMEN ARE TAKING TO US FOR WHAT WE HAVE IN MY OPINION IS WRONG. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE ON THAT? TO SAY THAT THE WHITE WIVES LEAVE THESE MEN AFTER THE MONEY IS GONE WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE ON THAT? TO SAY THAT A BLACK WOMAN WOULD STAY WITH THE MAN WHEN THE MONEY RUNS OUT, THAT IS ALSO NOT TRUE. YOU SAY DON’T COME ON HERE TRYING TO EDUCATE YOU ABOUT BLACK WOMEN, YOU NEED TO BE EDUCATED BECAUSE THE STATEMENTS THAT YOU ARE MAKING AREN’T TRUE. YOU SAY MY COMMENTS ARE APPAULING. WHAT IS APPAULING IS THESE DO NOTHING FOR THEMSELVES BLACK WOMEN. I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT WORKS FOR THE STATE THAT I LIVE IN. SHE TOO COMES HOME COMPLAINING ABOUT THE (BLACK) WOMEN THAT SHE HAS TO DEAL WITH ON THE DAILY BASES. STAYING ON THE STATE, HAVING BABY AFTER BABY BY DIFFERENT MEN, COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT GETTING ENOUGH STATE ASSISTANCE INSTEAD OF GETTING OFF THERE ASS AND GETTING A JOB. MY FAMILY MEMBER IS A BLACK WOMAN AND SHE BACKS MY STATEMENTS. WOULD SHE WANT ME TO SAY THIS OUT LOUD? NO, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE SAID!!! YOU STILL DIDN’T ANSWER MY QUESTION WHY DO YOU THINK BLACK MEN ARE DATING OUTSIDE THEIR RACE?? I KNOW THE ANSWER. BY THE WAY I DON’T MIND IF ANYONE GETS ON MY CASE I LOVE A GREAT DEBATE AND THIS ONE NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

72 As a matter of fact Fri, Oct 05, 2007 - 11:06 am

Know I know that what I’m saying is true, you’re the one that don’t know what you’re talking about. Oh and by the way the word ARROGANT MEANS COWARD. Which is exactly what you are. I know that your mother feels bad knowing that she has a son (black) who feels that black women don’t stand a chance with a man who makes a lot of money. I f anyone needs to be educated on this that person is you. Keep walking around with a POMPOUS look if you want too. You don’t know what you’re talking about, just another black brother that was probably rejected so many times by a black sister.

73 CHIEF 00 Fri, Oct 05, 2007 - 12:24 pm

AS A MATTTER OF FACT, YOU CAN CALL ME A COWARD, THAT IS FINE BECAUSE I AM SCARED TO DATE SECTION 8, 5 BABY DADDIES HAVING WOMEN. YOU WANT ME TO SIT BACK AND JUST LET THESE LAZY CHICKEN HEAD, 6 KID HAVING CHICKS KEEP NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR THEMSELVES BUT I WILL NOT. TURNED DOWN, THATS FUNNY CAUSE I DO THE TURNING DOWN. DON’T BE MAD, REALIZE THAT I AM LETTING THESE CHICKS KNOW TO GET UP OFF THEIR ASSES AND DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR LIVES INSTEAD OF SEEING HOW MANY CHILDREN AND CHILDRENS FATHERS THEY CAN HAVE. CALL ME ALL THE NAMES THAT YOU WANT BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE ATTITUDE THAT THESE WOMEN HAVE IS OLD. THEY WILL END UP BY THENSELVES. NO MAN IS GOING TO GO INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH 4 OR 5 KIDS ALREADY THERE. HE MAY LAY DOWN WITH HER BUT HE CAN NEVER TAKE HER SERIOUS. LISTEN AND LEARN!!! ONCE AGAIN THIS IS NOT ALL BLACK WOMEN BUT THIS IS SOME.

74 As a matter of fact Fri, Oct 05, 2007 - 4:06 pm

First of all you wouldn’t have to be scared of dating a black woman on section 8 if she is up front with you to begin with. You can control who you want to be with. Since you are dating out side of your race well that’s fine. Again I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH INTERRACIAL COUPLES OR MARRIAGES. There are a few in my family I’m fine with it. But, don’t get it twisted. The fact of the matter is that there are black women in this world I’m one of them who happen to be doing things for themselves. But, when you come out and say “Don’t marry a black woman” you’re obviously saying that I am not worth marrying because I’m going to take his money. Chief 00, you need to make yourself more clearer than this. I DO NOT APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT!!! Now you want to come back and say that it’s not all black women in which you are right it’s not. But, in the previous comment you said “Don’t marry a black woman.” Now which point are you trying to make?

75 As a matter of fact Fri, Oct 05, 2007 - 4:12 pm

And another thing how did we end up on the subject about women having many babies and different baby daddies. Let’s stick to the subject about gold diggers and why you made a stupid comment “DON’T MARRY A BLACK WOMAN.” What you’re talking about is clearly a different story. If you’re afraid to date a black woman it’s either one or two things #1. You’re afraid that she don’t need you to support her because she’s holding down the fort herself, or #2. Like I said before you’re afraid that she’s going to reject you.

76 CHIEF 00 Fri, Oct 05, 2007 - 5:39 pm

I TOOK IT TO THE BABY MAMMA DRAMA BECAUSE THAT IS ANOTHER WAY THAT THESE WOMEN TRY TO LOCK DOWN THESE MENS MONEY AS SHAUNIE DID. NOBODY IS SAYING THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH INTERRACIAL DATING SO WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING THAT UP? THERE ARE GOOD BLACK WOMEN IN THE WORLD BUT THE CHICKEN HEADS OUT WEIGH THE GOOD. I AM NOT SAYING THAT YOU AREN’T ANY GOOD BUT A LOT OF BAD BLACK WOMEN ARE HOLDING THE GOOD ONES BACK. LISTEN I HAVE BLACK WOMEN FRIENDS THAT AGREE WITH ME. I AM JUST WILLING TO SAY IT!!! I AM TIRED OF WATCHING IT. YOU ASK WHICH POINT AM I TRYING TO MAKE. I AM SAYING THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY THAT ACT AND DO THE THINGS THAT SHAUNIE DID IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. THAT IS MY POINT. WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT I AM SCARED TO DATE A BLACK WOMAN BECAUSE I AM AFRAID THAT SHE CAN TAKE CARE OF HERSELF? THAT IS EXACTLY THE WOMAN I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR CAUSE I AIN’T PAYING NOBODYS BILLS. AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE TRUST ME I DO THE REJECTING IN MY LIFE, I AM BEING PERSUED!!! CALL THE COMMENT STUPID BUT THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING. YOU STILL DIDN’T ANSWER MY QUESTION. WHY ARE BLACK MEN DATING OUTSIDE THE RACE? I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR YOUR ANSWER. YOU SAY THAT I AM CHANGING THE SUBJECT, NO I AM NOT THIS ALL HAS TO DO WITH THESE BAD, DO NOTHING FOR THEMSELVES, BLACK WOMEN.

77 As a matter of fact Sat, Oct 06, 2007 - 4:39 pm

Question? How do you know that she had Shaq’s kids just for the money? Because some men that date outside of their race feels some kind of control (some of them). There was an e-mail circulating that a white woman wrote about her dating a black man and not to get upset with her because the black man want her. Well a 28 year man responded back to her e-mail and tore her up she was speechless. The e-mail from this 28 year old went on to say that the reason he’s with you is so that he can control you, and that everything that a white woman is doing they got it from the black woman first because we were slaves and knew how to do everything such as breast feeding our babies. So to answer your question some of these black men want to have someone to control. I’m not saying that this is you. But, I want you to understand the reason I came down hard on you and the comment you made. I am a black woman doing things for myself and I thank GOD for that and I also know that the best is yet to come. What you could have said was “Men make sure you know what you’re dealing with when dating a WOMAN! That way you’re not categorizing a specific ethnic group. You’re right not all black women are doing this. But, to make a comment “Don’t narry a black woman” is totally out of order. You should have made yourself clear the first time, or not make that statement at all. I hope to get married someday. How would you feel if I made a comment “LADIES DON’T MARRY A BLACK MAN!” and be honest would you appreciate that? Although there are hoe-ish men out here in the world that out weigh the good ones. And the reason I keep bringing up the fact that I don’t have a problem with interracial dating or marriages is because I don’t want you to get the wrong idea that I’m prejudice because I’m not. It’s just the fact that black women are not the only ones out here doing this. Look at Kobe Bryant he got his present wife pregnant before they even got married and her family determined that she was going to get everything that she deserved (money)and a lavish life.

78 CHIEF 00 Sat, Oct 06, 2007 - 6:48 pm

QUESTION, HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT SHAUNIE WASN’T LAYING DOWN JUST TO HAVE THOSE KIDS. IF IT DIDN’T END RIGHT NOW SHE WOULD STILL KEEP HAVING THEM UNTIL THEY GOT DIVORCED. I SAW THAT E-MAIL TOO AND SOME MEN ARE DATING THEM FOR CONTROL, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT IS FOR SAFETY REASONS SAD TO SAY BUT IT IS TRUE. WE DON’T FEEL LIKE THEY ARE AFTER OUR MONEY. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT CATEGORIZING THE WOMEN BUT I AM NOT JUST MAKING A STATEMENT I HAVE RESEARCHED FOR YEARS BEFORE I OPENED MY MOUTH. I DIDN’T JUST WAKE UP ONE DAY AND SAY I AM JUST GOING TO MAKE SNAP JUDGEMENTS ABOUT BLACK WOMEN BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY WRONG. IF YOU MADE THE STATEMENT DON’T MARRY A BLACK MAN, THAT WOULDN’T BOTHER ME AT ALL BECAUSE I FEEL THAT PEOPLE SHOULD GET TO KNOW THE PERSON REGARDLESS OF COLOR. LETS FACE IT MEN IN GENERAL AREN’T DOING THIS TYPE OF THING. WHEN I SAY DON’T MARRY A BLACK WOMAN THAT IS A GENERAL STATEMENT PEOPLE SHOULDN’T TAKE THAT TO SAY EVERY WOMAN. I WOULD NEVER THINK THAT YOU ARE PREJUDICE. YOU ARE JUST DEFENDING YOUR OWN. I AIN’T MAD AT YOU FOR THAT. LOOK AT CHICKS LIKE SUPERHEAD WRITING BOOKS ABOUT WHO SHE HAS BEEN SLEEPING WITH AND HOW MANY BLACK WOMEN ARE NOT UPSET ABOUT THIS. THIS AIN’T HAPPENING IN OTHER RACES. THAT IS A PROBLEM. I ASKED AN ASIAN WOMAN JUST IN CONVERSATIO HOW MANY CHILDREN SHE HAD AND SHE TOLD ME NEVER TO ASK AN ASIAN WOMAN ABOUT CHILDREN UNTIL THEY ARE MARRIED. WE DO NOT DO WHAT BLACK WOMEN DO. WE ARE READY BEFORE WE BRING CHILDREN INTO THIS WORLD. I COULDN’T EVEN BE MAD AT HER FOR THAT. I JUST WANT THEM TO RESPECT THEMSELVES BECAUSE THIS DOES HAVE AN EFFECT ON HOW OTHER RACES VIEW OUR RACE AS A WHOLE. YOU SOUND LIKE A WOMAN WHO IS DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY AND FOR THAT I AM HAPPY FOR YOU.CONTINUE ON THAT PATH BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT WOMEN LIKE YOU I’M TALKING ABOUT THE CHICKEN HEADS. WE ARGUE ALOT AND LIKE I SAID I LOVE A GREAT DEBATE BUT WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE I TRUELY WISH YOU WELL. I STILL WANT TO CONTINUE THE DEBATE THOUGH.

79 I hope they are both are happy Sat, Oct 06, 2007 - 7:09 pm

Keep it real everybody has secert and the children will be happy and while taking care.She was doing what she thaught was best.To both I wish you’ll the best and remain friends.If u can save money cut the lawyer out and work the shit out together.

80 As a matter of fact Mon, Oct 08, 2007 - 11:00 am

I truly appreciate that Chief 00, and I wish you well just the same. I’m glad we’re talking about this because it bothered me. Knowing that there are some black women that are doing things for themselves and a comment like that I very well took it as a general statement that you were saying all black women were that way. Again I say you should have put in another sentence form. Men don’t marry a chickenhead or something like that.
Also I wanted to go back to another comment you made that most black women are like this and is hurting the good ones out there. They are not diminishing my chances of a man talking to me or getting to know me at all. I agree with you when you said that people should get to know each other I’m totally on the band wagon when you said that. But, again you have to be specific in your comments because I felt offended.

81 CHIEF 00 Mon, Oct 08, 2007 - 5:11 pm

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS TOO BECAUSE OUR PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR BOTH SIDES OF THIS STORY. MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE SAID IT A DIFFERENT WAY BUT THE REASON THAT I SAY IT THAT WAY BECAUSE IT TURNS HEADS. NOBODY WILL LISTEN WHEN I AM NICE ABOUT IT. HERE IS SOMETHING THOUGH, THESE CHICKEN HEADS ARE DIMINISHING YOUR CHANCES AND HERE IS WHY. GUYS KNOW THAT THEY CAN JUST SLEEP WITH THESE WOMEN WITH NO RESPONSIBILITY, OTHER RACES LOOK AT THESE WOMEN AND WILL CLASIFY YOU AS ONE OF THEM. THAT IS JUST LIKE WHEN BLACK MEN ARE SELLING DRUGS OTHER PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY COPS, THINK THAT WE ALL DO. IS IT RIGHT? NO, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS THE WAY IT IS. I AM GLAD THAT WE GOT INTO THIS THOUGH. STAY STRONG AND WRITE BACK IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.

82 As a matter of fact Tue, Oct 09, 2007 - 8:30 pm

I’m glad we were able to talk about this as well, and I wish you very well.

83 Hippymama Sat, Nov 10, 2007 - 1:29 pm

Chief 00…..

Just checking out a few of the forums and this one I won’t comment on.  I read it all and its head to head, All the way.  Think I’ll just just skip on over   to the Love Peace and Happiness form, where I am comfortable and talk at you later!!!!!  LOL LOL and Peace Love and Happiness to you today…..

84 CHIEF 00 Sat, Nov 10, 2007 - 3:46 pm

HIPPYMAMA, AS YOU CAN SEE WHEN I SEE SOMETHING WRONG I CHALLENGE IT. AS I SAID BEFORE RACE DOSEN’T MATTER. WHEN I AM WRONG I WILL ADMIT IT. I KNOW THAT I RUB SOME PEOPLE THE WRONG WAY BUT IF YOU DON’T NOBODY WILL HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. SOME THINGS NEED TO BE DISCUSSED AND I AM TIRED OF SITTING AROUND AND WATCHING SOME AREAS IM MY RACE GO TO WASTE. TO ALL THAT I RUB THE WRONG WAY I WILL SAY THAT I AM SORRY BUT I PROBABLY WILL DO IT AGAIN.

85 2 the text above Sat, Nov 10, 2007 - 10:14 pm

SHUT THE F*CK UP BY UR WORST NIGHTMARE

86 caultywhottary Mon, Dec 10, 2007 - 12:52 am

hm.. thank you

87 CPSU.N.Y. Wed, Oct 12, 2011 - 6:13 pm

WHEN YOU MEET SOMEONE YOU TALK ABOUT PAST RELATIONSHIPS AND WHEN KIDS ARE INVOLVED IS ANY DRAMA INVOLVED. THAT IS THE FIRST SIGN AND THE NEXT IS NOBODY CAN FORCE YOU TO DO WHAT YOU DON’T WANT TO DO. THEY BOTH WAS DOING THE SAMETHING BUT ONLY ONE CAN GET AWAY WITH IT BUT THE KIDS WILL PAY FOR IT. BE CIVIL AND KEEP THE FIGHT IN THE COURTS NOT IN THE PUBLIC WHERE IT CAN GET BACK TO THE KIDS. THEY BOTH WAS WRONG AND NOW ALL THE DIRTY LITTLE SECRETS COME OUT. IF THE PROBLEM IS MONEY GIVE IT ALL AWAY AND THEN SEE WHERE YOU WILL BE AND ALL YOUR TRUE FRIENDS AND FAMILY ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT WILL BE AROUND. THE LAST THING IS WHEN YOU FALL IN LOVE YOU TAKE A CHANCE.

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