NOW LETS SEE WHAT WHITE PERSON IS GOING TO COME ON HERE AND SAY THAT THIS IS FAIR. BLACK PEOPLE HAVE ALONG WAY TO GO TO GET EQUALITY. ANIMALS HAVE MORE RIGHTS THEN WE DO. THIS IS SAD. WE NEED TO HOP ON BUSSES AND GO BACK TO JENA. THIS CAN NEVER END ON OUR PART EITHER. AT SOME POINT WE BLACK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO STAND UP FOR AND DO SOMETHING PHYSICALLY OR THIS IS GOING TO GO ON FOREVER.

Hell boy.Ill say it.
The punk thug broke the law.What part of that do you not understand?
No as far as your threat about getting physical,go ahead.It seems to be the way black people handle things if their form of justice is not served.
Get on those busses boy.Waste your time and money.Your just supporting a punk who if given the chance would beat you for his own gain.
Think about him breaking into your mothers house.How will she handle that?

OLD TIMER, FIRST YOU ARE AN ASS. WHITE PEOPLE BREAK THE LAW ALL THE TIME AND NEVER GET THE SENTENCES THAT BLACK PEOPLE GET STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT!! I DON’T THINK THAT HE SHOULD GET OFF WITH A CRIME I JUST WANT EQUAL PUNISHMENT. GIVE HIM THE TIME THAT A WHITE PERSON WOULD GET. ALL THAT BOY SHIT THAT YOU ARE TALKING, TRUST ME YOU WOULDN’T SAY THAT TO MY FACE BITCH. I AM NOT SUPPORTING THE CRIME I AM SUPPORTING JUSTICE STUPID ASS. WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT GET! I THINK ABOUT YOU BREAKING INTO MY HOUSE WITH YOUR RACIST COMMENTS MORE THAN I WILL THINK ABOUT HIM. JUSTICE STUPID THAT IS WHAT WE WANT. ANOTHER BITCH TOUGH BEHIND THE COMPUTER KEYS. THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE MAKE THEM TO A BLACK PERSONS FACE YOU STUPID F*CK. WHITE PEOPLE LIKE YOU KILL ME ACTING LIKE WHITES DON’T COMMIT CRIMES. THERE ARE BAD PEOPLE IN EVERY RACE JUST WHEN A BLACK PERSON DOES IT THE MEDIA AND ASSES LIKE YOU MAGNIFY IT. ALSO THE POLICE TEND TO TURN THE OTHER CHEEK. YOU CHICKEN SHIT!!!

You know Boy,your right about whites doing their share of crime.The courts just see that most of them are capable of turning their lives around after they serve their time.
Where as,the majority of blacks(Niggas as ya"ll call yourselves)are uncapable of change because of their enviroment.They have little to no support as far as parents are concerned because most come from broken marriages or no marriage at all.
They are raised in a home that is supported by funds that the government gives them.When a child learns from birth that everything is given to them free then they learn to think that they are owed a free living.
Now as far as blacks doing harm to honest,law abiding,hard working citizens and getting punished for their actions,they pull out the “Race Card”.
My God boy,ya’ll have every major organization going to bat for the blacks and you still cry because your being pulled off of “Mammies"titt and going to jail.
Your “Idol” Mychal had near a half a millon bucks sent to him from some pretty dumb people but now he is crying because his Mammy has to pay court costs and doesnt have the money.
When will you wake up Boy and see the writing on the wall? I know you can read so “Wussup wit you Bro”.
Face the reality boy,youve been born into a race that cannot care for themselves.If us “good Ol Boys” hadnt pulled your ancestors out of the Jungle,taught you to eat with silverware instead of your fingers,then Ya’ll would still be eating Monkey or each other.——To be continued another time!

FIRST OF ALL YOUR MOTHER IS A BOY. FOR YOUR DUMB ASS TO SAY THAT WHITES CAN TURN THEIR LIVES AROUND AND THAT BLACKS CAN’T IS JUST AS REDICULOUS AS YOU ARE. YOUR MAMMA IS A NIGGA. YOU ARE REAL TOUGH BEHIND COMPUTER KEYS. SAY THAT SHIT TO A BLACK PERSONS FACE BOY. LET ME GUESS YOU ARE TOO SCARED. PUT UP OR SHUT UP PUNK.I BET THAT I AM MORE EDUCATED,MORE PROPERTY, HAVE MORE MONEY THAN YOUR SORRY ASS WILL EVER HAVE. SO THIS BELIEF THAT YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME IS STUPID AND IT TAKES A TRAILER LIVING ASS LIKE YOU TO TYPE SHIT LIKE THIS. I’LL SAY THIS AGAIN YOU STUPID F*CK NOBODY IS SAYING HE SHOULD GET OFF FREE JUST EQUAL PUNISHMENT. THIS GOOD OLE BOY SHIT IS A THING OF THE PAST.YOU TYPE THIS SHIT BECAUSE YOU ARE SCARED OF US. I BET YOU WERE HAPPY WHEN THEY INVENTED AN AVENUE FOR YOU TO FINALLY SAY YOUR RACIST SHIT. YOU HAVE BEEN BORN INTO A RACE WHERE YOUR WOMEN F*CK DOGS AND HORSES. THEY GET AWAY WITH IT. THAT IS ILLEGAL SINCE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE LAW YOU PUSSY. CAN THESE BITCHES TURN THEIR LIVES AROUND. I’VE SEN THE VIDEOS OF YOUR WOMEN DOING THAT. WHATS WORSE FIGHTING THAT THOSE BOYS DID OR YOUR WOMENS PUSSIES BEING STRETCHED OUT BY ANIMALS. THINK ABOUT THAT BOY. I BET THAT YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE RACIST COPS THAT PULL US OVER ALL THE TIME. YOUR TRAILER IS ROLLING AWAY BOY YOU BETTER GO CATCH IT YOU DUMB F*CK!!!

Now now “Chiefy"dont let your ignorance show by getting all upset.Youve cursed 22 times and not once did I resort to foul language.That goes to show me your level of intelligence.You cant keep a factual conversation without getting upset and swearing when you hear the truth.
Your mind is surely deep rooted in the gutter because all that you speak of is “Beastiality and watching dirty films.Is your sex life so dull that you have to watch others having sex just to arouse yourself?
Racial profiling is a needed tool for law enforcement and it is a proven thing but when the “race card” gets pulled from the deck Ya’ll sound like Charlie Brown"Whys everybody always picking on me”.
The “Good Ol Boy” crap,as you say, is alive and doing well.The Jena action has only made many silent citizens aware of what is really going on.
The freedom in which you use the word “Nigga” shows me that even you understand that you are nothing but a “Nigga”.
Ive looked this site over and have seen little that is supporting the real"Black cause”.Except for a few exceptions I see nothing but “Gangsta Bulldung”.The real Black issue is skirted around here.
Let me educate you so at least you can realize the simplicity of the “Real black cause” and it is really very simple.
In fact it is simple for everyone if they would just try it.
Hard work builds a strong character that leaves a person,at the end of a day, feeling that they contributed to the betterment of this society.The American society.
Taking full responceability for our loved ones and providing the needed support to them so they will move in a positive direction.
No matter what injustices we face,and even I face them daily being white,take them in stride and not let those injustices pull us down.
Find the good in people,even if it seems no good is there,and learn to get along because afterall,we are stuck with each other.
My first two posts were aimed to get you riled up.I wanted to see the real you.
In fact both of us were wearing a mask of hate for each other because hate is such an easy feeling to grasp.It lets us escape from our real life and all of its drudgery and put all of our despairs on someone else.
Yes I am pro white.I should be just as you should be pro black because this is our heritage.
Its up to you to make your race better and the same for me.Do you agree with this?

took a look at the site yesterday and something just wasn’t right.. I hadn’t updated the interview in about a month, had my head into other things.(LIKE UP MY ASS) Can’t have that stale bread syndrome(YOU HAVE TO HAVE BRAINS FIRST) though, so I picked up the phone to holler at my dog Cordazer Broadus.

.. I hear you already: “Yeah right muhfuca,(DO YA"LL REALLY DO THAT TO YOUR MOTHERS?) how you know Snoop?(YOU DIDNT SNIFF HIS BOOTY DID YOU) Well after you take a squat on the bowl,(I THOUGHT THAT YA"LL CRAP IN THE WOODS) how can you tell that your done wiping? You just do, right? Well that’s how I know Snoop, fool, I just do. Disbelief, I smell it on you.)AND ON MY FINGERS TOO) Don’t get to crazy, just peep the convo and swallow back——-OH BOY,WORDS FROM THE WIZARD HIMSELF——SNOOP DOG EAT DOGSHIT!!!

One news article reports “The trial is scheduled to begin today for former Eastern Michigan University student Orange Taylor III, who is accused of killing student Laura Dickinson, whose death set off a series of events that led to the firing of EMU’s president this summer. Police say Taylor, 21, of Southfield slipped into Dickinson’s Hill Hall dorm room Dec. 13 while she slept, raped her and smothered her with her pillow. Surveillance tape footage captured Taylor exiting the dorm room with one of Dickinson’s Christmas party gift bags, police said. Dickinson’s body was found two days later by a custodian. Dickinson, 22, was naked from the waist down. She had a pillow over her head and what police say is Taylor’s semen on her body. But the university told Dickinson’s family and the campus community that no foul play was suspected.”

So a healthy White girl gets smothered by a pillow in her dorm room. They find the suspect’s DNA on her body and “no foul play was suspected.” Believe it or not the Black attorney defending Taylor is claiming that the victim was already dead and Taylor just found her body as he was running around looking for some marijuana to buy. (Another stellar Black university student.)

I really wish we could put the liberals on trial as accomplices to murder for incidents like these. The White people of the South were 100 percent right to segregate their society for the protection of White women and children. This incredibly important truth had been erased from the pages of history, but murders like this one remind us that Segregation was meant to protect Whites from the very large number of Black criminals. If sane White people were in charge, universities would ban Blacks so they wouldn’t be able to murder someone’s beautiful White daughter in her dorm room just days before Christmas.

I guess this “Nigga” acted this way because of three hundred years of oppression by “Whitie”.

OLD TIMER, I WAS ABOUT TO GIVE YOUR DUMB ASS CREDIT BUT IT CLEARLY SEEMS THAT EVERY TIME YOU OPEN YOUR IGNORANT MOUTH SOMETHING RACIST COMES OUT. YOU NEED TO CUT THAT NIGGA SHIT OUT, YOU AIN’T BLACK!! WHATS YOUR PROBLEM? DID A BIG DICK BLACK GUY STEAL YOUR WOMAN. ABOUT YOU SAYING THAT I LOOK UP BEASTIALITY ON MY COMPUTER, YOU ARE WRONG A WHITE BOY SHOWED IT TO ME DUMMY. I GET MORE PUSSY THEN YOU DREAM ABOUT! SHUT THE F*CK UP AND GO TO YOUR KKK SITE WHERE YOU BELONG. WHITE PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH KNOW THAT WE ARE SUPERIOR TO THEM THAT IS WHY YOU ALL RUN LIKE CHICKENS. GO BACK TO YOUR TRAILER AND ROLL AWAY YOU DUMB SON OF A BITCH.

Hey Chief!
That interview with “Snoop Dog Eat Dogshit” was really inspiring.Its just what the young kids of today need to learn, from their “Role Models”.
Thats another problem that your race(and because of intergration)and the White kids have learned is the normal type of behaviour.Sure makes the future look a little brighter knowing that such a “Low life sub culture” has made such a profound impression on this society.
Now Im not being racist because a large majority of Blacks feel the same way as Ive just mentioned.That is why certain words like Ho,Nigga and Bitch have created such a disturbance.You cant deny this can you?
Ok Ill admit that there have been many white “Role Models” that have fallen out of grace but they were only one person and not an entire culture as the “Gangsta Bulldung” is.
Ill give you Britney Spears for an example:She has gone to the top and dropped off like a ton of bricks but the music culture that she represented is still somewhat decent.Even Elvis screwed up but “Rock n Roll” didnt change.
Is my point reaching you?
Micheal Jackson,who needs to be,well he just needs help,something from another planet still didnt tarnish his culture of music.
Theres always been the “Bad boys n Girls” of music but never did they effect the culture of music that they preformed in.Not like “Gangsta Rap” does.
Its a culture of music that applauds filth,crime and ruthlessness in behaviour.
We as adults need to teach the kids some kind of self esteem that will allow them to fall into the mainstream of our “American Culture”.
Teaching them that being a “Thug” is cool,molds them in a way that will only create a negative in their future lives.Again,You cant deny this can you?
As a young boy in the 50’s,every movie and every TV show made smoking an accepted action but now it is concidered “Socially Unacceptable”.Get my drift?It was the thing to do,it made you “Cool”.
I say that if it is harming the youths of today,then it should be banned.Just like smoking.
You see Chief,Ive gone the distance and danced with the Devil and I have some strong opinions.I may screw around and lead you to believe that Im out to do injustice but really I care for this country of ours and the Americans that will keep it rolling.Those kids who will be one day the leaders long after you and I are dead and gone.

OLD TIMER, NOW YOU ARE TALKING MY LANGUAGE. BUT LETS LOOK AT YOUR PEOPLE, WE HAVE ALL THESE WHITE KIDS SHOOTING UP SCHOOLS, WHITE PARENTS LEAVING INFANTS IN CARS TO DIE. WHERE ARE THE WHITE PARENTS AT. IF THE POLICE AND THE COURTS WOULD TREAT THESE PARENTS LIKE THEY TREAT MINORITIES THESE WHITE PARENTS WOULD STRAIGHTEN UP.  ALL PARENTS SHOULD TEACH THEIR CHILDREN THAT GANGSTER RAP IS ENTERTAINMENT. PARENTS SHOULD BE THE CHILDRENS ROLE MODELS NOT RAPPERS ATHLETES AND ALL OTHER ENTERTAINERS. THAT IS WHAT I DO. IF THESE PARENTS LET RAP AND MOVIES TEACH THEIR CHILDREN THEN WHEN THEIR CHILDREN MESS UP THE PARENTS SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. BACK TO THE WOMAN THAT LEFT HER KID IN THE CAR FOR DEAD, NO FILES CHARGED, MIKE VICK KILLS DOGS FILES CHARGED. SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE COURT SYSTEM WHEN A WHITE WOMAN CAN KILL HER OWN KID AND GET NOTHING BUT A BLACK MAN KILLS DOGS CAN GET PUT IN JAIL AS HE IS GOING TO BE. DON’T BLAME BLACKS BLAME SOCIETY. MY CHILDREN KNOW THAT RAP MUSIC IS ENTERTAINMENT. DO THESE WHITE KIDS KNOW THAT SHOOTING UP SCHOOLS IS ILLEGAL? IT’S NOT JUST BLACKS IT’S ALL RACES. YOURS, MINE, AND EVERY OTHER RACE GET IT RIGHT!!

Now that we have connected on a subject that all Americans need to reflect on maybe this avenue can become constructive.
First off,we cant generalize any case.I agree that the Woman who surely didnt forget her frigging donuts in the car but neglected to think of that poor child cooking in that hot car.No chargers filed? Hell in my opinion she should be locked up in that car and feel the pain.
Again,there has been injustice in all walks of life.
Yes it is society not particular races.
What I was attacking in my last post was the fact that Gangsta Rap lyrics are a influence on this society that is adding fuel to an already blazing fire.
I honestly feel that every race has its dead beats.It will always be this way.Takers and Givers.My attitude is adjusted in different ways according to whom Im speaking or dealing with.
Ive worked with every type man and see the difference between them and the back sliders.Im sure that you also have to adjust your outlook as you see fit.You did so with me didnt you as I did with you?
I have seen this country go from Beaver Cleaver to Bevis n Butthead.At the rate we are rotting our society as we know it will end unless all Americans get wise and fix it.
I talk to the guys at work about this influx of Mexicans bumping many of us out of work.Its a government supported civil takeover.Everything we purchase now is made in China.The Unions have collasped.The New World Order is in full swing and we Americans are footing the bill.
I may sound paranoid but the words are written on the wall,in English for now.
Our forefathers,yours and mine,barring the injustices of the day, built this country.We cant wait to long because the train is on its way for a certain derailment.
Now you might think while reading my thoughts that I seem like Im sweeping the injustice aimed at blacks under the rug.The old days were not my doing and I feel no obligation for them.The injustices of today again I had nothing to do with them so I bear no responceability eigther.
I am though taking full responceability to lock arms together with my fellow Americans and see that this country grows into the wonderful society that its people deserve.
I believe in my heart that much of our problems stem from the power brokers in America of every color.
We are struggling.If you were drowning,I toss you a rope as you would me.As humans with consciences we would do this without hesitation.Now if a power broker yelled “Hey Ill fire you if you touch that rope” most would stand back and wittness their human brother drown.This is where our work is to start.We must build up our consciences.A clear conscience warms the spirit.
OK Im done!

I will say this to you"Im a product of my enviroment as are you”.As a fellow Human Brother I owe you the needed apoligy for crapping in your living room.Im sure that you have spent countless hours working on this Site and I do owe you respect as the owner.

CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN YOURSELF MORE?

I guess that I am guilty of rambling.I went off topic and my post continued.
Our lives in America have become increasingly more complex from day to day.
My thoughts range in a wide spectrum because of these complex issues.
Just within our every day lives we battle race issues.
Then we have social issues with drugs and crime.
Our distrustful government creates more strife than we can endure.
We have world politics that affect us.
The influx of illegal immigrants are robbing the legal citizens of America of jobs and taxes for social programs.
Today, more than ever in history,our lives are being bombarded with a wide variety of problems yet we fall prey to these abuses because we have really little choice in these matters.
So you will also have to explain to me what you want to know in particular.
To sum my thoughts up the best that I can is to say this:Back in the latter 50’s an organization called the John Birch Society was very active.It was labeled a Communist Organization because it went against the traditional views of our government.This was the McCarthy period.A time when many innocent people were persecuted because of their beliefs.
Whats ironic now is that the basic views of this organization was this:“The Power Brokers of the New World Order will sap the wealth from the United States and turn it into a third world country”.I ask you,is this viewpoint coming into reality now?
With this ideal in mind,we Americans better buck up and see this as the most important issue in our country.Even the Bible speaks of this World Order and cautions us to be aware.
Maybe Im going to far out for your liking but I honestly believe that our Nation is at risk.
Now as these immigrants take over the job market it will effect Blacks,Whites and all other legal citizens.Racism will wear a different face then.It will be Americans hating Hispanics.This is already happening.
Ill give a good example of this:Where I work,many Black men are employed in our maintenance dept.They are rapidly being replaced by Hispanics by the Power Brokers of our Company.A grave hatred for Mexicans is growing in the Blacks that are being effected by this takeover.
One on One,the two groups get along but as a whole there is deep hatred by both for each other.The Hispanics being racist against the Black for personal reasons and The Blacks are being racist because of survival.Its very complex.
This is why I say"We Americans better wise up”.
One last thing:If a man keeps two dogs fighting each other,then he fears not being bitten by eighter.————-

The Mexican American(Chicanos) segment of America is being affect as well by this invasion.
If the population of America was,say,20% Black.20r;own,10% Oriental and 50% White and our birth rates stayed moderate like they are then an influx of millons of Hispanics would change those figures maybe making them the majority.
I can hear you saying:Damn this guy sounds like HITLER!
Im not into Nazi crap at all.They were a vile group of murderers not to be Idolized in the least bit.Im just looking at the reality of things.

HERES WHAT I THINK. EVERY ILLEGAL THAT IS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET PAPERS. EVERY TIME AN ILLEGAL COMMITS A CRIME WHY DO THE POLICE AND THE MEDIA TRY TO MAKE SAY IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. IF A BLACK OR WHITE PERSON DOES SOMETHING WRONG IS IT BECAUSE WE ARE AMERICANS? AT ONE POINT NONE OF US WERE HERE IN THIS COUNTRY SO WE ALL ARE PROBABLY ILLEGALS. I THINK THEY DESERVE A CHANCE TO SERVIVE JUST LIKE WHITES, BLACKS, AND EVERYONE ELSE. IF THEY ARE COMMITTING FELONIES THEY SHOULD BE DEPORTED BUT IF THEY ARE TRYING TO BE GOOD PEOPLE LET THEM LIVE. HOW ABOUT LETS HELP THEM GET PAPERS INSTEAD OF KICKING THEM OUT. ONE OTHER THING, THE PART ABOUT YOUR JOB REPLACING BLACKS WITH HISPANICS. THAT IS A RACIST THING THAT YOUR EMPLOYER IS KNOWINGLY DOING. THEY FEEL THAT THEY CAN HIRE THE HISPANICS FOR LESS MONEY.

Agreed on all comments with the exception of the comment of the employers racism.
That seems to be the most widely used word these days.Its a cop out for every misdealing if a valid reason cant be found but in this case its purely an economical issue like you said about the lower wages on the employers part.I dont agree with this choice but I see the reasoning.
The racism that is being practiced is by the Hispanics and the Blacks.Actually more so on the Hispanics part because they do dislike Blacks for who they are.The Blacks are being Racists because of the survival factor.
The point that Im trying to convey is that racism can rear its ugly head in all situations.This is what is happening now with this immigration issue.
I was raised in a Mexican American enviroment and hold no dislike for Hispanic cultures or persons but I am concerned with what is happening now.
This concern is widely feared by the American born Mexican also because these illegals choose not to conform to the American system and use it only to better their lives in Mexico and Central America.This is where our economy and social services are being tapped out.
If these persons want to become legal status American citizens then yes they do need all the support available.
It all boils down to basic survival on everyones part.If we lived in a fair and just world then every human person wouldnt have to leave home in order to feed their families.
My Grand Children are of Mexican ancestory and I support them with all my heart.So Im not being harsh to the Hispanic needs.I feel that we should impose quotas on immigration and secure the borders against this intrusion of illegals.
Sooner than later,every American will be paying the price of our neglect on this issue.Social Services wont be able to tend to the real needs of the American tax payer.
Your views about deportation wont be the problem solver with these Felons.They will only come right back and the American people are owed the security knowing that these Felons are being dealt with accordingly.Eighter thru prisons or some form of rehabilation.
When it comes to the Media,I laugh untill my belly hurts.It cant even be called a propaganda agency because they flip over on all issues.Their ratings is all that they are concerned with.
The Police,with the exception when Police injustice are practiced,they do hold the fabric of our society together.Without them,we are screwed unless the National Guard is better and I doubt that seriously.
If people would share their thoughts more instead of letting the Power Brokers and the Media do all of our thinking, we might just come up with a better way to live our lives.We need a total overhaul in our Government but I doubt that will ever happen.If a party could be established that would include all Americans and hit the streets in protest maybe that boat would float.
I was quite impressed with the protests in Seattle when the WTO tried to meet.A cross section of all Americans were present and they were successful in their efforts.

OLD TIMER, THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IT EMPLOYER RACISM IS THAT I DON’T SEE THIS COMPANY SACRAFICING WHITE EMPLOYEES FOR MEXICANS. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY COMPANY I SEE DOING THIS. WHERE I AM FROM THERE IS THE OUT WITH THE BLACK IN WITH THE MEXICAN MENTALITY. THE OWNERS OF THESE COMPANIES ARE WHITE. DON’T GET ME WRONG I AM NOT SIDING WITH CRIMINALS I AM SIDING WITH WHAT’S RIGHT OVER WHATS WRONG. MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ARE GOOD PEOPLE BUT ANY TIME THE LAW HAS A CHANCE TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ANYTHING THAT IS NOT WHITE THEY JUMP FOR JOY ON IT. REMEMBER THIS LAND WAS STOLEN FROM THE INDIANS BY WHITES. NOW THEY WANT TO SAY WHO CAN STAY AND WHO MUST GO. THATS PRETTY GOOD WHEN YOU CAN STEAL FROM SOMEONE WITH NO PUNISHMENT AND THEN WHEN OTHERS TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND MAKE A BETTER LIFE FOR THEM AND THEIR CHILDREN TAKE THAT FROM THEM TOO.

Whoa! Did your last post sound racial!
Youve singled out the White Power Brokers as the only culprits in all of the past dealings in this country.Shame on you,for your forgetting that Black Army Soldiers (Buffaloe Soldiers) fought in those Indian Wars as well and they enlisted on their own,they werent forced.Now your probably saying that it was their choice because it was the only thing that could let them live as free men without the hassel of being in the post Civil War reconstruction.Thats almost like saying its Ok to steal if a person cant find a job.There were many Black families that helped settle the West also.Now they did have a good reason because they could find real freedom far away from the Deep South but still no matter what the reason they were a part of the taking of Indian lands.So the “Stealing” of Indian lands falls on everyones shoulders that took part in the “Manifest Destiny” of the Jefferson administration.
Being that I was raised in New Mexico along with Mexican persons,I also experienced the Indian Cultures too.The American Indian issue is a conversation for another time.Again,I see both sides to their situation.Dont forget though,it was a War with certain persons losing and some gaining.Its called Civilization.This expansion is not unlike those of yesteryear throughout the world and it will continue as long as Man feels the need to grab more land and impose his beliefs on other cultures.Its not only Whites doing all this eighter.The Hispanics of Spain were some of the first to rape and plunder the “New World”.Tribal warfare in Africa brings the same results.
I hold many beliefs concerning Nature very much like the American Indian believes but I know that they were just as guilty as the American settlers searching for new lands.It was not uncommon for the different tribes Of Native Americans to do battle against each other in order to secure better living conditions,better hunting grounds and also to inslave their captives.So they are guilty too of being ruthless only in a smaller way.
African Blacks took part in the rounding up of hostile tribes who they wanted to dominate and sell them to the Slavers.
Did you know that at the same time that Black slaves were being transported to the Americas,that Pirates were capturing Whites to sell into slavery in North Africa to the Islamics.A study done by the University of Columbia quoted from their study that 1 1/2 millon Whites were enslaved.Another fact was that Rich English families, that were going to the New World, bought Whites out of Debtors Prison (Endentured servants)and most never saw freedom from their debts and stayed servants untill death.
Whether it be a Rich White Man or an Indian Chief or African Tribal Chief the domination of the weak has been practiced by all Cultures.The Spanish enslaved the Inca and Aztec indians,stole their gold,gave them sickness that eventually killed off entire populations in Peru and Mexico.So the White guy is the only asshole slave owner the world has ever known is purely “HOGWASH!”.In Louisiana there were a mulitude of plantations,owned by rich Carribean Black families that held slaves of color in their grasp.
I failed to mention that a small amount of Whites also make up the Maintenance Dept.They too are being replaced.The reason why it seems that Blacks are being singled out is because a large majority of the Illegals are common labors and a majority of these jobs are held by Blacks but not solely Blacks.
Im a tradesman and Ive been replaced on many good jobs because of these illegals.The illegals are an American problem and not a problem for any race in particular.Not all companies are owned by Whites eighter.I worked one job that was owned by a Black Man who was one of the best guys that I had ever worked for but he too took advantage of the Illegals and laid off all of his American workers.We had a crew that consisted of an even count of Black to White ratio but in the long run this mattered not to him.We all hit the unemployment lines together.
Not to inflame you,but I feel that your not looking at all of the reality of things.Your slightly stuck in the mind set of the “Slave Days”.Days that were cruel yes but days that are also mostly gone.

Your Quote:REMEMBER THIS LAND WAS STOLEN FROM THE INDIANS BY WHITES.Will you now give your home back free and clear?I think not.

The slamming of Blacks whether the facts be true or false is Racism.
The slamming of Whites whether the facts be true or false is Racism.
The slamming of Hispanics whether the facts be true or false is Racism.
This holds true with every culture.

Your Quote:DON’T GET ME WRONG I AM NOT SIDING WITH CRIMINALS I AM SIDING WITH WHAT’S RIGHT OVER WHATS WRONG.—I never said that they were criminals other than breaking the Immigration Laws of America.
Your Quote:WHERE I AM FROM THERE IS THE OUT WITH THE BLACK IN WITH THE MEXICAN MENTALITY. THE OWNERS OF THESE COMPANIES ARE WHITE. The seperation of the American worker regardless of color is whats happening and not all companies are owned by Whites eighter.

Your Quote:MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ARE GOOD PEOPLE As I have already said,yes these are good people and very hard working people with a strong Culture based in Christianity.
Your Quote:BUT ANY TIME THE LAW HAS A CHANCE TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ANYTHING THAT IS NOT WHITE THEY JUMP FOR JOY ON IT.This has nothing to do with race.It is a situation of illegal entry to this country.
Your Quote:THATS PRETTY GOOD WHEN YOU CAN STEAL FROM SOMEONE WITH NO PUNISHMENT,or beat someone senceless regardless of the reason other than self defence and not get punished.
In predominatly Black cities where the local governments are run by Blacks the problem is being looked at, even more intencely because it is directly affecting the cities majority Black population.
I think that you are afraid to admit that White hate on the Blacks part is just as Racial as Black hate is on the Whites part.Is it that only Whites are racists and all other races can hate them for what they have done and are doing without being racists.Then if this is the issue,then Whites should be able to hate without fear of being called racists because of the bad things that Blacks do.
This is double standard “BULLDUNG”.Think about it.

MY QUOTE DON’T GET ME WRONG I AM NOT SIDING WITH THE CRIMINALS. THAT WASN’T DIRECTED AT YOU. THAT WAS DIRECTED AT THE WHITE POLICE OFFICERS THAT PULL HISPANICS OVER JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE HISPANIC. THAT WAS DIRECTED AT THE MEDIA THAT SAY THE CRIMES THAT MEXICANS ARE INVOLVED IN IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. MY QUOTE ABOUT OUT WITH THE BLACK IN WITH THE HISPANIC. 95% OF THE JOBS THAT DO THIS KIND OF THING ARE WHITE RUN OR WHITE OWNED YOU HAVE TO AGREE WITH THAT. MY QUOTE THESE PEOPLE ARE GOOD PEOPLE ONCE AGAIN NOT DIRECTED AT YOU. IT WAS A GENERAL STATEMENT. MY QUOTE ABOUT THE LAW JUMPING FOR JOY TO DISCRIMINATE. YES IT DOES HAVE EVERYTHING TO DO WITH RACE. I’M SURE THERE ARE SOME ILLEGALS FROM ENGLAND, ITALY, RUSSIA, AND OTHER COUNTRIES THAT LOOK WHITE BUT YOU NEVER HEAR ABOUT THEM NOW DO YOU? WHITE HATE IS RACISM AND BLACK HATE IS RETALIATION. THINK ABOUT HOW WE STARTED TALKING YOU WERE MAKING RACIST COMMENTS I WAS RETALIATING. FOR THE MOST PART THIS IS THE WAY THAT IT IS. ONE OTHER THING THAT YOU SAY IS THAT BLACKS WERE INVOLVED IN THE TAKE OVER OF THIS COUNTRY THEY WERE FORCED TO DO THAT. THAT IS NOT BEING INVOLVED.

WHITE HATE IS RACISM AND BLACK HATE IS RETALIATION.
Bill Cosby is certainly right in his views and this is proof in a nut shell.Nothing but sorry excuses for the actions of Blacks.Whitie is to blame for all of the Black populations short comings.Even those Blacks that speak against this type of idealism are marked men and labeled Uncle Toms.Forced into settling this country,if you feel so strongly about this then give it back seeing how you were forced to participate.
Your ideals are whats ruining your race.You sound like you have no ability to see the reality of things no matter how clear they are.Your hatred for Whites clouds your judgement and freely allows you an escape route.
Im the first to admit that injustices do exist that are caused by the Old Fashion White way and too see injustices on the part of all races.
I feared that the race card would be pulled out from you but I thought that we could have a rational discussion about the hard times that we all face in America but seeing how your so oppressed by Whitie your views are typical.
You fail to realize that all Americans are getting shafted by the Higher Ups and this includes the Black leaders also.You cant see the forest for the trees.

WHITE HATE IS NOT RACISM, WHITE RACISM IS RACISM. GO ON THIS SITE AND READ EVERY SINGLE COMMENT THAT IS UP HERE AND YOU WILL SEE ALL THE WHITE RACISM THAT IS UP HERE. LOOK AT THE PARIS HILTON SITE AND SEE HOW MANY BLACK PEOPLE HAVE CALLED HER ANIMAL NAMES LIKE THEY DID ON THE SERENA WILLIAMS SITE. YOU ARE THE ONE THAT WILL NOT FACE REALITY THAT WHITE RACISM EXIST. YOU CAN ADMIT THAT WHITES HAVE DONE INJUSTICES BECAUSE IT IS DONE TO BLACKS AND NOW HISPANICS EVERYDAY. LIKE I SAID I AM SURE THERE ARE ITALIANS, GREEK PEOPLE, RUSSIANS THAT DON’T HAVE THERE PAPERS BUT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR ABOUT THEM!! BECAUSE THEY LOOK WHITE. DON’T GET MAD AT ME BECAUSE YOUR RACE IS RACIST. LOOK AT YOUR PRESIDENT THAT LEFT ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN LOUISIANA AND JUST SMILED ABOUT IT BECAUSE MOST OF THEM WERE MINORITIES OR POOR. LOOK AT YOUR PRESIDENT THAT STARTED A WAR ADMITTED THAT IT WAS WRONG BUT WILL NOT PULL THE TROOPS OUT. BY THE WAY IT IS NOT THE RACE CARD BEING PULLED OUT WHEN IT IS TRUE. I DO AGREE THAT ALL AMERICANS ARE GETTING SHAFTED BY THE HIGHER UPS BUT IT IS THE WHITES THAT HAVE THE POWER AND ARE VOTING THESE HIGHER UPS IN. SO BLAME YOURSELVES. TO THAT ALL I CAN SAY IS VOTE SMARTER. IF MY VIEWS ARE TYPICAL THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD WISE UP AND SAY TO YOURSELF THAT MAYBE MY VIEWS ARE TRUE!!! I UNDERSTAND, YOU WANT TO KEEP THE POWER SO YOU WANT US TO THINK THAT EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT BUT I AIN’T THAT DUMB YOU CAN’T BRAINWASH ME. TRY SOMEONE ELSE. I’LL SAY IT AGAIN YOU CAME UP HERE WITH RACIST COMMENTS AND I CAME BACK. THAT IS CALLED RETALIATION. THAT IS USUALLY HOW IT WORKS. LOOK IT UP!!!

WHITE HATE IS RACISM AND BLACK HATE IS RETALIATION——-WHITE HATE IS NOT RACISM, WHITE RACISM IS RACISM—-Hey make up your mind!These are your words.Go back and read them.Get your thoughts right.
Youve miss almost all that Ive been trying to convey to you because you think Im brainwashing you.Where you fall short in this disscussion is understanding the fact that no longer is it a race issue in this country but more a class issue.
The higher ups Black White Brown have total control and will keep it because we not so higher ups are continueing to fight amoung ourselves about who is getting a bigger piece of cake.The “Brain Washers” are all of the elected officials.
Do you honestly think that any black elected official wont cave into the system of things in Washington once the money and power is being given out.If you do then you totally need to re-educate yourself on politics and the greed of your fellow man/woman.
You were the one who pulled this discussion back into the race light.Im for the hard working man and woman of this country whether they be black white or whatever.
Its not you or me who have opened the gates of Mexico.Our nests are not being feathered by these Illegals with their lower wages.Its the power brokers and the rich.Many who are White but many are Black.
Your lacking to understand me is what fuels my frustration.
You always mention White Police doing injustice.My God man there are a large portion of law enforcement that is of color.They arent patroling the streets like little Angels.They are just as capable of injustice as any White is.
This attitude of yours IS clouded with your hate for Whites.You think no black can do wrong and if they do its because of Whitie.Get right with the reality of things.

OLD TIMER, FIRST I MUST ADDRESS THIS THING THAT YOU KEEP SAYING. YOU CONTINUE TO SAY THAT I HATE WHITE PEOPLE THAT IS A LIE. JUST BECAUSE I POINT OUT THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING DOESN’T MEAN THAT I HATE THEM. IF YOU HAVE READ MY COMMENTS ON THIS SITE YOU WILL SEE THAT I POINT OUT WRONG DOINGS BY BLACK PEOPLE AS WELL. YOU MENTION THAT THE WRONG DOINGS IS BY THE HIGHER UPS, I AGREE BUT WHAT YOU FAIL TO WANT TO BELIEVE IS THAT THE HIGHER UPS ARE MOSTLY WHITE. THE GOVERNMENT IS RUN BY WHITES. YES, THERE ARE A FEW MINORITIES SPRINKLED IN BUT THE MAJORITY IS WHITE. ABOUT THE POLICE, EVERY TIME YOU SEE A COP DOING WRONG WHAT COLOR IS HE? WE JUST RECENTLY HAD A WHITE OFFICER PUNCHING A 15 YEAR OLD GIRL IN THE FACE AND TEHN HE MASED HER. I’M NOT MAKING THIS UP. I WILL NEVER SAY BLACKS ARE PERFECT BECAUSE WE AREN’T BUT I BLAME WHO NEEDS TO BE BLAMED AND IN THE CONVERSATION WE ARE HAVING YOU ALREADY KNOW WHO I BLAME. YES, I AGREE THAT IT IS ALSO A CLASS THING. YES, I DO THINK THAT THE FEW MINORITIES THAT ARE IN THE GOVERNMENT AREN’T DOING ANYTHING TO MAKE IT BETTER. YES, I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE FEW MINORITY COPS THAT ACT LIKE ASSHOLES BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT IS A WHITE THING. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT WE NEVER HEAR ABOUT THE RUSSIANS, ITALIANS, AND ANY OTHER WHITE LOOKING ILLEGAL ALIENS? IT’S BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK WHITE IT’S ALL RIGHT IN AMERICA. YOU CAN’T POSSIBLY TELL ME THAT THEY ALL HAVE THEIR PAPERS. YOUR MIND I CLOUDED BECAUSE YOU ARE TRYING TO BLAME EVERYONE FOR THE DOINGS OF THE WHITE GOVERNMENT. I AM WILLING TO SAY THAT THE WHITES RUN AMERICA. BUT WHEN IT IS GOING BAD I AM WILLING TO SAY THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING AMERICA ARE DOING A BAD JOB.

Chief,
I think we basically are on the same page.
Ill add to all that we have conversed of by saying"We,as the low men on the pole,have been lied to,abused and kept in the dark too long”.
Its time that all of the people of this country of every color,stand together and change the way this countries government handles things.
We need better education for all,for education is the tool to a better life.If higher education cant be achieved then good Trade schools is still another alternative.With advanced learning along comes a positive self esteem for youths.
I honestly feel that our school system should not stop at 12th grade.Make it manditory for college or Trade school.Make this additional education free just like the first 12 grades are.
If we can build millon dollar smart bombs and spend billons on killing people,then we should surely educate our kids.
Give the elderly,who busted their behinds all their lives working,a retirement that is rewarding.
The entire system needs a drastic overhaul before its totally ruined.
I tell the younger guys at work, of all races, all sorts of ways to get a trade.Most avenues to this are free like Local Unions,ABC trade schools that the Petro/Chemical industry offers and a few others.Quite a few companies will assist in tuition to gain better more educated workers.Even truck driving schools have programs.Our local hospital offers training in nursing.The education is out there it just takes a little hustle to find them.
The adults of this country HAVE TO DEDICATE THEMSELVES to the effort of helping our kids move forward.Its our duty to do this!

OLD TIMER, WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. SOMETIMES WHEN I AM TYPING MY BRAIN GETS AHEAD OF MY FINGERS THAT IS WHY I THINK WE TEND TO GET MIXED UP. I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT MAKING COLLEGE OR A TRADE MANDITORY. I’M JEALOUS BECAUSE I DIDN’T THINK OF THAT! LOL!!

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